Gresley Open Brake Third
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Gresley Open Brake Third
I'm about to start on a build of a Gresley Open Brake Third using a Cooper Craft (ex Ian Kirk?) kit although, as I model the 70s/80s, I'll be converting it in to it's departmental use as part of the British Rail Weedkiller train as in the photo below:
I'd like to spring the bogies (Gresley 8'6") and wonder what the options are. I know Rumney Models do a kit but are there any other alternatives?
John
I'd like to spring the bogies (Gresley 8'6") and wonder what the options are. I know Rumney Models do a kit but are there any other alternatives?
John
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Re: Gresley Open Brake Third
Well, the end profile is wrong, the roof ends are the wrong shape, the upper panelling is too deep and the sides are too thick but Chris Pendlenton made a very nice job of 2 of them.
I just happen to have a brand new version of the sprung bogie ready to go.
DaveB
I just happen to have a brand new version of the sprung bogie ready to go.
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Thanks Dave,
A good look at the kit today has revealed it's limitations but I'm not aware of an alternative...
As for the bogies, what's the best way to order from you as I suspect it'll be quite some time before I can catch you at a show.
John
A good look at the kit today has revealed it's limitations but I'm not aware of an alternative...
As for the bogies, what's the best way to order from you as I suspect it'll be quite some time before I can catch you at a show.
John
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Re: Gresley Open Brake Third
davebradwell wrote:....I just happen to have a brand new version of the sprung bogie ready to go.
I'm all ears.
That would be an ecumenical matter.
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Just remembered your details are here: https://traders.scalefour.org/DaveBradwell/ in which case, all I need to know is the price...
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Re: Gresley Open Brake Third
That was a bit quicker than I expected - typed before I thought but it shouldn't take me long to get some straight piano wire for the secondary springs to save you straightening the thick coiled stuff I have.
You can make a huge difference to these coaches by filling in the top panels with pieces of Plastikard (it might be .010" but check) and re-profiling the roof ends by sticking on strips and filing back to a template - I've done it with a Hornby. I'll try and attach a drg of the proper shape - Isinglas is wrong here. I'm assuming you're modelling an LNER vehicle and not a pre-group with taller roof ellipse.
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You can make a huge difference to these coaches by filling in the top panels with pieces of Plastikard (it might be .010" but check) and re-profiling the roof ends by sticking on strips and filing back to a template - I've done it with a Hornby. I'll try and attach a drg of the proper shape - Isinglas is wrong here. I'm assuming you're modelling an LNER vehicle and not a pre-group with taller roof ellipse.
DaveB
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Plea to moderator - I don't think we should display this drawing but I can't find a way to just attach it, although I'm sure I've done it before.
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I doubt anyone will be concerned that it displays rather than is attached, You are distributing a copy either way, and the LNER are long gone.
But if you really want to attach a .jpg file without it displaying then hide it in a .zip.
But if you really want to attach a .jpg file without it displaying then hide it in a .zip.
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Re: Gresley Open Brake Third
I don't know if the MJT LNER components (sides, ends, roofs etc) help?
https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt.php# ... ents-Sides
https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt.php# ... ents-Sides
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Thanks to all who replied and to Mike Trice who emailed me. I've decided that I'm going to build this kit as it stands for practice. Shockingly, I've never built a coach before although, in fairness, I'm modelling a freight only line.
As and when lockdowns end and finances are more plentiful, I'll put together all the parts to do this properly.
John
As and when lockdowns end and finances are more plentiful, I'll put together all the parts to do this properly.
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Do you need other photos of this carriage? I have a feeling a friend designed the weedkilling equipment and the adaptations for this coach from a revenue-earning vehicle. He certainly designed the Gresley suburban they used before this one. I've asked him to confirm it was his work, and if he has other photos.
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Daddyman wrote:Do you need other photos of this carriage?
Yes please, that would be great.
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Usually takes a few days for an answer from him.
In the meantime, you're aware of this?
https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums ... ing-train/
The page actually contains some of Mike's photos (the friend in question).
In the meantime, you're aware of this?
https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums ... ing-train/
The page actually contains some of Mike's photos (the friend in question).
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Daddyman wrote:Usually takes a few days for an answer from him.
In the meantime, you're aware of this?
https://rcts.org.uk/carriage-conundrums ... ing-train/
The page actually contains some of Mike's photos (the friend in question).
Yes, thanks, I found that page at the weekend.
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The train seems to be popular at the moment, John: there's a thread on RMWeb too:
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index ... 1950s-60s/
It mentions the Paul Bartlett site, which you may already have come across, but which I'd overlooked:
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/weedkillerbr
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index ... 1950s-60s/
It mentions the Paul Bartlett site, which you may already have come across, but which I'd overlooked:
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/weedkillerbr
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Daddyman wrote:The train seems to be popular at the moment, John: there's a thread on RMWeb too:
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index ... 1950s-60s/
It mentions the Paul Bartlett site, which you may already have come across, but which I'd overlooked:
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/weedkillerbr
Thanks again, I had got the photos from Pauls website.
As it happens, Mick has been a treasure trove of information and he sent me some fantastic photos of the interior of the coach last night
I think I'm going to do the existing kit as a 'layout coach' representation then, in time, do a full detail version...
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