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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby PeteT » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:56 pm

chrisf wrote:
Has anyone else found that you can only sand down the cast frames so far before no more metal is removed and the file switches to polishing?

Chris


Yes, I used to - until Justin put me onto using sandpaper (aluminium paper? The green stuff). When it is clogged use a different bit/New sheet.

Then the challenge is applying even pressure across an uneven workpiece to sand it evenly...

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby Will L » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:57 pm

PeteT wrote:
chrisf wrote:
Has anyone else found that you can only sand down the cast frames so far before no more metal is removed and the file switches to polishing?

Chris


Yes, I used to - until Justin put me onto using sandpaper (aluminium paper? The green stuff). When it is clogged use a different bit/New sheet.

Then the challenge is applying even pressure across an uneven workpiece to sand it evenly...


Or better still reasonably course wet and dry paper. The white metal dust washes out so clogging isn't such a problem, and anyway it cuts better when wet. Never done a coach bogie side but I did successfully recovered 6 sets of axle box and spring details from a pair of cast tender chassis side frames which included some quite delicate detail.

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby David B » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:46 am

I put wet and dry on a flat surface and work the metal over it. Taking the piece to the abrasive gives you better control.

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby Noel » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

chrisf wrote:Has anyone else found that you can only sand down the cast frames so far before no more metal is removed and the file switches to polishing?


On the assumption that this is because the file's teeth are clogged, the answer is a file card brush - cheap, effective and long lasting.
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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby jjnewitt » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:53 am

Mike Garwood wrote:I have a number of Comet Mk1's with the Comet brass 'slab' soldered onto the underframe. I was hoping that your design might be adapted to allow me to use them without having to un-solder this big brass washer, described on the Comet site as 'Threaded coach bogie rubbing plates, bolts, nuts, pair' - that's all.
Really like these and so much better than the whitemetal castings.

Possibly, it would depend on the diameter of the Comet 'slab'. It that is less than 13.5mm then it will be fine. Depth shouldn't be an issue.

PeteT wrote:As for time I'd prefer to spend it making something which will work and look the part, than laboriously sanding down cast sideframes which still wouldn't cut the mustard.

My thoughts exactly. I find jobs like thinning cast sideframes a right pain and go to great lengths to avoid it! Plastic is easier if you can get hold of something suitable.

Either way there is an asthetic issue with using them on sprung subframes and that is that, in most instances and unless you've removed a lot of material, the bogies will end up looking too wide, especially when planted under a coach. This is probably the only real justification for building a complete bogie kit though it should end up looking better overall.

Justin

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby BryanJohnson » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:05 am

Having got some to hand, the slabs are 12.75mm diameter and 4 mm deep.

Bryan

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby Will L » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:49 pm

David B wrote:I put wet and dry on a flat surface and work the metal over it. Taking the piece to the abrasive gives you better control.

Absolutely right, I should have said that, but I though it was obvious. But then what's obvious to one person ...

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Re: Rumney Models - RCH 1927 Tank Wagon Underframes, BR Plate Freight Bogies, Wagon Castings

Postby Mike Garwood » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:30 pm

jjnewitt wrote:
Mike Garwood wrote:I have a number of Comet Mk1's with the Comet brass 'slab' soldered onto the underframe. I was hoping that your design might be adapted to allow me to use them without having to un-solder this big brass washer, described on the Comet site as 'Threaded coach bogie rubbing plates, bolts, nuts, pair' - that's all.
Really like these and so much better than the whitemetal castings.

Possibly, it would depend on the diameter of the Comet 'slab'. It that is less than 13.5mm then it will be fine. Depth shouldn't be an issue.

Happy days...3 pairs please

Mike

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Rumney Models - Morton 10' Detailing, Milk Tank Castings

Postby jjnewitt » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:40 am

Latest News - April 2019

April is upon us already and Scalefour North is just round the corner which means a new round of Rumney Models releases. Due to other demands on my time there is a smaller than usual number of them.

First up is a detailing fret for 10’ Morton brake wagons (B.114 - £4.50). This was done by request and is intended to upgrade Bachmann and Parkside, etc wagons. The fret includes both GWR and RCH brake lever guards along with brake levers, new vees, open wagon door springs (two types), solebar and headstock detailing, lamp irons, coupling hooks and Instanter links. There are sufficient parts for 2 wagons.

Spring and axlebox castings are now available for GWR and LMS milk tanks. These are for milk tanks fitted with oil journals rather than roller bearings. The GWR type is available with either BR or RCH 2 part axleboxes. Note that this variation applies to the outer axles only, the centre axles on all GWR milk tanks fitted with oil journals were an RCH type. All are £5 for a set of 6 and include and etch for the riveted axlebox guide fitted to the outer two axles. For more information and product codes see my website.

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A couple of items that were previously withdrawn have been reinstated. LNER steel open stanchions and detailing (B.101 - £3) and the Ratio LMS van strapping and detailing (B.105 - £1). Both of these items will remain in the catalogue until current stock levels are exhausted. Further details can be found here.

As has been noted elsewhere a few kits from the Miscellany Models range created by Mark Tatlow will be available from the Rumney Models exhibition stand at Scalefour North. These are as follows:

Highland Railway/LMS/BR diagram 51 full brake (£48)
Fully sprung Fox coach bogies (£16 per pair)
MR/LMS/BR: Diagram 530 passenger brake (£36)
NER/LNER/BR: Diagram P7 hopper wagon detailing etch (£13.50 - sufficient for 2 wagons)

Please note that I will not be supplying these kits mail order, they are ONLY available from Rumney Models at the exhibitions I’m attending. All mail order and general product enquiries should be directed to Mark and you should visit the Miscellany Models website for contact details and further information on the kits.

And finally a quick mention of a couple of items that will see the light of day in the autumn round of releases. Work on the complete BR Mk1 bogie kit has been completed; samples for the castings approved and the production mould ordered, leaving just the instructions left to write. They won’t be of any use to those who need rakes of the things (likely cost and the amount of time needed to build them would count against that) but if you only need a few and want a fully sprung bogie that isn’t too wide and looks the part then they may be of interest.

BR Coach Bogie.JPG

Also scheduled for release is a sprung subframe for 8’6” Gresley coach bogies. I have yet to determine prices for both of these items.

I look forward to seeing some of you in Wakefield.

Justin

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Re: Rumney Models - Morton 10' Detailing, Milk Tank Castings

Postby iak » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:45 pm

See you there Justin. :thumb
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Rumney Models - New Items Coming Soon

Postby jjnewitt » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Autumn is fast approaching and this one will bring a bumper crop of new releases from Rumney Models. Instead of leaving everything to the last minute as usually seems to happen I thought I’d let everyone know what will be coming their way in a few weeks a little more in advance this time. Further details and prices will be announced a little closer to the time when the next catalogue is issued but the following will be available at Scaleforum. All are 4mm scale and are only suitable for EM/P4 unless stated otherwise.

GWR/BR(W) P22 ‘Herring’ ballast hopper kit

A full kit for this diminutive ballast hopper which could be found all over the Western region as well as further afield. The kit features a one piece hopper body some built in jigging to help you build it and a full set of castings. The chassis is to the usual Rumney Models spec and includes full brakegear and guitar wire ‘leaf’ spring suspension. It can be built in OO as well as EM and P4.

P22 (1) - Small.JPG

LNER Gresley 8’6” Standard Duty Coach Bogie Subframe

These are something that has been a work in progress for a good while; a fully sprung subframe for the distinctive Gresley bogie. The kit specifically covers the 8’6” standard duty bogies. 8’ and 8’6” heavy duty bogies are options for future releases depending on sales. A neat solution for the visible cosmetic wheel leaf springs is included. Can be used currently with RTR plastic sideframes or MJT castings.

BR Coach Bogies (for Mk1 stock)

A complete kit for the standard duty 1950s BR Mk1 coach bogie. The kit has options that cover single bolster bogies and double bolster bogies, either in their original design or with the revised and strengthened bolster arrangement. Riveted and welded construction is also covered and there are options for welded and riveted spring stops. The only ones you can’t model are the heavy duty ones variety and the few built with compensated brakegear. They are of course fully sprung with guitar wire primary and secondary springing. Castings are included for the 6 leaf springs/BR1 axleboxes and the bolster springs and hangers.

BR Coach Bogie.JPG

Not for those who want rakes and rakes of the things but an option for some who only needs a few but wants a bogie that the right kind of width and looks a bit special.

GER Y14/LNER J15 Underframe

A modern, fold up, CSB’d underframe designed for use with the Alan Gibson J15 kit. The kit includes complete dummy inside motion and full brake gear. A number of options are covered including square and bevel bottom fireboxes as well as those converted from the former to the later, different length brake shoe brackets, steam and Westinghouse air brakegear, Sharp Stewart brakes for the first batch built and fluted or plain coupling rods.

GER S23 Tender Underframe

To compliment the above a CSB underframe kit for use with the Alan Gibson S23 tender kit. The kit includes a fold up subframe with full brakegear and options for both steam as well as Westinghouse air brakes. Also included are replacement sideframes with options for round or straight top sideframe cut outs.

GER Z14 Tender Underframe

As per the S23 tender kit in concept and again designed for use with the Alan Gibson S23 kit to create an earlier GER tender. The kit includes replacement sideframes with options for deep and shallow sideframe cut outs as well as numerous brakegear arrangements covering steam and Westinghouse fitted tenders.

If any of the above is of interest look out for a further update with prices a week or two before Scaleforum.

Justin

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Rumney Models - New Items Now Here

Postby jjnewitt » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:30 pm

After a mammoth packing session all the items that I announced earlier this month are now in stock. Prices are as follows:

• E.07 Gresley 8’6” light bogie subframe - £13 per pair
• E.101 BR coach bogie kit (single and light double bolster for Mk1 stock) - £26 per pair
• X.07 GER Y14 / LNER J15 loco chassis - £38
• X.08 GER S23 tender underframe - £13
• X.09 GER Z.14 tender underframe - £14
• X.10 GWR / BR(W) P22 ‘Herring’ ballast hopper - £34

As usual with Rumney Models products any springing wire is included. The BR coach bogies (E.101) and P22 hopper (X.10) also include all castings.

All these are included in the latest price list (September 2019) which can now be found on my website via the ordering page.

The S23 and Z14 tender etches will be available in brass as standard but I have a limited number both frets in nickel silver which will be available for a surcharge. You will need to add £1.20 for the S.23 tender and £1.60 for the Z14 tender to the above prices. I also have 1 set of P22 hopper etches in nickel silver which are available for an additional £4.20. Nickel silver seems to be about 40% more expensive at the moment. They are available while stocks last. If you wish to order any of the above nickel silver frets by post please email first to check availability.

Finally a reminder that the following Miscellany Models products will be available from the Rumney Models stand at Scaleforum:

• Highland Railway/LMS/BR diagram 51 full brake - £48
• Fully sprung Fox coach bogies - £16
• MR/LMS/BR Diagram 530 passenger brake - £36
• NER/LNER/BR Diagram P7 hopper wagon detailing - £13.50

I’ll look forward to seeing some of you at Scaleforum next weekend.

Justin

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Re: Rumney Models - New Items Now Here

Postby Horsetan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:04 pm

jjnewitt wrote:After a mammoth packing session all the items that I announced earlier this month are now in stock. Prices are as follows:


• E.101 BR coach bogie kit (single and light double bolster for Mk1 stock) - £26 per pair
• X.07 GER Y14 / LNER J15 loco chassis - £38
• X.08 GER S23 tender underframe - £13

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Excellent.
That would be an ecumenical matter.


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