A Highland Miscellany

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steve howe
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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby steve howe » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:55 pm

Pinking shears! what an inspired idea!

I have a pre-War tea shack to build and this neatly solves the asbestos tile conundrum :D

thanks Mark :thumb

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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby Noel » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:42 pm

No, Mark, I don't know for certain what the colour was, I'm afraid. I'm going by long ago memories of corrugated asbestos sheeting, which, even when new, was a pale creamy grey, so the blue cast in the photos just didn't seem right to me, but I asked because the shop may have been roofed with something quite different in colour to what I remember [and memory is notoriously unreliable anyway...]

Just out of curiosity I Googled the pharmacy and found this 1930 image of the back (ironically, the image Google found is bigger) http://www.ambaile.org.uk/detail/en/11771/1/EN11771-kyle-pharmacy.htm.

Sorry, I don't seem to have been very helpful :?
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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby Terry Bendall » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:12 pm

Mark Tatlow wrote:Do you know what colour they were


I can recall seeing asbestos slates used on building in Sussex which had a distinct dark pink tint to them, often used on timber clad bungalows. Sometimes almost a dark red but faded. Perhaps a regional thing or a different sort of asbestos?

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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby Noel » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 pm

Having had to give up on trying to make something work, at least until tomorrow :) , I found these two on Pinterest [which I detest, because everything is divorced from its context, but I didn't find the originals] with dates given of 1920s and 1962 respectively, which at least seem credible.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/5a/b8/025ab8f867349a1fe8441ec08ef37e86.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/a9/0f/d1a90f03b4d40f39292c4ed22dae977e.jpg

Assuming that the building and name colours didn't change substantially [big assumption, I know] I think the earlier one may be silver gelatin rather than orthochromatic film, hence the relatively dark grey roof. The colour photo presumably shows the result of 40+ years of weathering, into something like this
https://www.asbestosroofcleaning.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_0038.jpg
showing before and after steam cleaning. The lower four here
https://www.asbestosremovalists.co.uk/what-does-asbestos-look-like/ shows more examples, including a dark brown version, possibly a weathered dark pink as mentioned by Terry, but I think that the 1962 shot probably rules that out at Kyle. I assume you have seen some/all of these before, but I hope this helps.
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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby John Palmer » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:56 am

From Historic Scotland: The Pattern of Scottish Roofing. Not available as a download that I have been able to trace, but available online at https://issuu.com/hspubs/docs/res_report_-_the_pattern_of_scottis. As a sourcebook on Scottish vernacular architecture, this comes close to my treasured 'Buildings of the Scottish Countryside' - indeed, in some ways better by virtue of the plethora of colour images. Asbestos diamonds illustrated and detailed at page 162, and appearing to have a very slight mauve cast.

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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby Noel » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:46 am

:thumb
The book page numbers and online page numbers are not matched, so look at online page 170 for the image John refers to. It also shows that the ridge material is unrelated to the slates [thin lead sheet?], which probably explains the differences in appearance in the 1962 image I posted.
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Re: A Highland Miscellany

Postby Mark Tatlow » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:44 am

Thanks to John and Noel.

The book that John points us too is definitely helpful and will be bookmarked for future use. I have a couple of other Scottish vernacular architecture books which I will share details of when I get home over the weekend.

The asbestos slates shown on page 107 (scan)/162(book) are the type I am looking to create. Whilst I would say that the slates in this picture have faded a lot (as have these https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/a9/0f ... ae977e.jpg), I think I am taking the point that my colouring is too dark (the blue tinge I think is a bit more in the photograph reproduction). I feel a bit more colour washing coming on over the weekend!

Elsewhere in the book (including the frontspiece) has photographs of much larger slates that have the very reddish hue that Terry mentioned. As these things were man-made, I am guessing that each come from a different manufacturer and had a slightly different constituency.

The B&W photographs that Noel have found are known of (they were taken by Duncan MacPherson who was the owner of the Kyle Pharmacy and has was a well known photographer of the area). They have formed the basis of the model. Rights are retained by the Skye & Lochalsh Archive and they want £40 per image to reproduce them. Given that the Archive exists to record and share the history of the area, I felt they were seeking such a sum for someone who is only (frankly) playing trains. I thought I would retain the multiple £40s to spend on some worthy trader at Scaleforum instead!
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