Swanage (again)

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:07 pm

Trying to get things functioning for S4 North virtual exhibition has me doing up the point motors.

Horrified to discover that I hadn’t planned things very well and my C&L turnout operating units were just way too big and had not real solution for mounting the motors.

A few experiments on the laser cutter later - this is the Mk3 version - a narrow cab and a bullnose version, depending on the clearances.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Serjt-Dave » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:47 pm

I used the C&L turnout units on my layout. I quite like them but like yourself I had to modify a few of them to get them to fit. I don't have a laser cutter but a bloody great file. Works just as well. LOL.

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Re: Swanage

Postby nberrington » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:53 pm



Some of you might have noticed the trial control panel on the video on Scalefour North International.

Anyway, I’ve been working on the final version and the panel has been made using a reverse etch technique with Trotec Reverse acrylic. One etches away the backing and then fills in colour from behind.

The end result is rather nice....

I am particularly pleased with the society logo!

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Dave Holt » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:36 pm

A very neat panel, indeed.
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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pm

As an aside, I would be happy to help Society members who might want a panel etched. I have access to a decent laser cutter, and after doing this about 10 times to produce this panel, think I have it down.

I can produce the reverse etched piece and leave it to you to colourize. Trotec reverse has 3.2mm thick white/clear (like the panel above) and 1.6mm black/clear, white/clear. There are some bizzaro colours you can look at on their website.

As to price - you can undertake to "pay it forward" and that will do me fine.

Drop me an e-mail anytime.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Terry » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:10 pm

Just picked up on this excellent thread Neil, having watched your video as part of the Virtual Scalefour North set. This line is of particular interest to me as I now live just up the road from Swanage station (about 20 minutes walk), having retired down here a couple of years back. We are in easy earshot of the trains when they run, as the valley back up to Corfe, runs below our village. I recall this railway operating back in my youth when we took holidays down here in the early 1960's. It has always fascinated me, and I was heartened when the Swanage Railway began to re-open parts of the line. Today it is one of the countries excellent heritage railways, indeed us 'locals' view it as one of the best! Although I'm sure you have much reference material to hand for the era you are modelling, I would always be happy to supply any any specific reference pictures. I have often thought of building a very small version of Swanage station myself now that I am back in the hobby.

A couple of tasters from a few weeks back. Apologies for the quality as it was camera phone that day - I take my big Nikon when I want proper pics!........

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You might notice that the U class 31806 had the smokebox door from 31874 that day, recently fitted. The number has since been corrected. I assume it was fitted from 31874 which is undergoing deep maintenance work in the preservation sheds.

Will be following with much interest.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Paul Willis » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:55 pm

Terry wrote:You might notice that the U class 31806 had the smokebox door from 31874 that day, recently fitted. The number has since been corrected. I assume it was fitted from 31874 which is undergoing deep maintenance work in the preservation sheds.


"Prototype for everything" category #386.

Just whip this one out when you can't find that etched brass plate that you bought only twelve years ago and remember putting in a really, really safe place...

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby garethashenden » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:39 pm

Does that pacific actually fit on that turntable? It looks like its hanging off the end.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:27 pm

It’s only a 50ft turntable. I don’t think they turn big locos there anymore. I’ve read that the original line crews had to jerry-rig bogies and pony trucks to turn the locos.

This is why I cheated and put in a 60ft model - it’s completely the wrong size, but at least will turn anything I might run on the line.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Terry Bendall » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:57 am

nberrington wrote: I’ve read that the original line crews had to jerry-rig bogies and pony trucks to turn the locos.


I think the usual arrangement for turntables was to fit outriggers to the tender end of the turntable so that it could be back on and the outer end lifted up. A bit of a challenge to model! :)

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Will L » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:19 am

Terry Bendall wrote:
nberrington wrote: I’ve read that the original line crews had to jerry-rig bogies and pony trucks to turn the locos.


I think the usual arrangement for turntables was to fit outriggers to the tender end of the turntable so that it could be back on and the outer end lifted up. A bit of a challenge to model! :)

Terry Bendall

I've heard of this practice before, the GER had lots of small turntables, but I've had trouble imagining how it was done. Could anybody enlighten me?

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Noel » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:43 am

There's an example of a turntable extension from the USA here https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/locomotives-too-long-for-turntable; this one is bent in the middle, but the UK version was generally straight, so that the back of the tender was much higher relative to the front. There is one in use here http://www.gwr.org.uk/no-tenders.html about one third of the way down under a Dean 2000 gall tender - which looks as though it is derailed but is not. Unfortunately, the extension ramp itself is not visible because of the people, but I couldn't find a better example. The ramp was under the tender as that had the lower axle-loading, but even so it was more difficult to balance the turntable and a nuisance to rig and remove the ramps.

In the case of Swanage, any local engines which couldn't fit on the turntable, of which the only likely candidate is the engine of local goods, probably just worked out tender first, whilst locos arriving on excursions would have to work light to Bournemouth for servicing anyway, and would be turned there.
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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Winander » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:11 pm

In the history of the Kendal and Windermere Railway, Dick Smith states that a fishplate was bolted to one end to turn LNWR Claughton class locos that were too long for the 50 foot turntable. IIRC I have read that it was used under the bogie.
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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Will L » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:48 pm

Noel wrote:There's an example of a turntable extension from the USA here https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/locomotives-too-long-for-turntable; this one is bent in the middle, but the UK version was generally straight, so that the back of the tender was much higher relative to the front....

Thanks for that Noel, I think that explains things, on a slightly larger scale than would have been need on the GER perhaps.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Philip Hall » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:26 pm

I've seen several photos of outriggers on GW turntables, and perhaps also on the Southern. Essentially just like a bit of a ramp as in the American picture but not levelled out, just a straight incline. I was going to try and model such a practice on a 50ft turntable I was going to build (because I had a suitable well made by my father) but the need evaporated when I bought a ready made (but not yet working again) indexable 70 ft turntable - it was the one reviewed in an early MRJ. 70 ft would be more appropriate for my model based on Okehampton anyway.

I would think the outriggers could be modelled with lengths of brass angle soldered to thin PCB spacers with locating pins which would fit into sockets in the turntable deck?

Philip

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Terry » Sun May 23, 2021 11:34 am

Just popped into Swanage this morning and found this one lurking on the turntable.

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A visitor I believe.

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm

Some progress shots on some huts...
Also a sidebar - my wife dabbling in some O scale craftsman kits - her window weathering is amazing....

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:59 am

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby splam32 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:52 pm

that weather worn paint look is amazing,

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:11 pm

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:42 pm

Let there be light..... the door will be fixed in place when the hut is in situ.
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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Mike Garwood » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:07 pm

Fantastic work!

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nberrington » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:53 am

I’ve been working on a little crane designed by Steve Smith of the Yeoville Model Railway Group: (https://yeovilmrg.org/verwood-and-semley-yard-crane/)

It’s a lovely bit of engineering. Photos so far:

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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby nf.newling » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:02 am

Harking back to the discussion on turntable outriggers, I came across these pictures in Modelling Railways Illustrated of September 1993. They show how outriggers were used to extend turntables by running the tender up the outrigger. It must have left the turntable badly out of balance and hard work to push.
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Re: Swanage (again)

Postby Will L » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:04 am

nf.newling wrote:Harking back to the discussion on turntable outriggers, I came across these pictures in Modelling Railways Illustrated of September 1993. They show how outriggers were used to extend turntables by running the tender up the outrigger. It must have left the turntable badly out of balance and hard work to push.

Sorry but that PDf is upside down, which makes it very hard to read


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