Bristol Barrow Road

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barrowroad
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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:37 pm

Tim,

Just to give you an idea of what the parts look like.
The panels consist of the framing to which a boarded panel is fitted to each of the openings. Using the end as an example - there are 4 panels across the top and 3 panels below the windows. The lower horizontal panel with the right hand window is one panel with door plus frame soldered to it.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Le Corbusier » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:31 pm

Thanks Robin,

My first foray will be to try a scratch build from plasticard ... but from what you say this looks like a good fall back if required. ..... Though I gulped slightly at the price on the Phoenix web site :?
Tim Lee

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:39 pm

Tim, I was fortunate enough to find mine on ebay for £20! A bargain. A bit naughty Phoenix showing a price @ £30 [ which is the 2mm price]and finding on the second page it's £65 for the 4mm version!! At the very least the front page should say 'from £30'.
Robin

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Alan Turner » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:15 pm

Le Corbusier wrote:Robin,

I would be interested to know how easy you think the Churchward box might be to adapt?

There would be an element of 'cut & shut' but it strikes me that it might well be suitable for the Monsaldale box ... The upper rear window being relocated to the non stair end?



The Ratio box, being plastic, is much easier to cut-and-shut. It produces a fine box if you use the etched windows from Phoenix.

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Alan

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Le Corbusier » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:08 pm

Thanks Alan,

I will take a look.

Tim :thumb
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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby jim s-w » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:41 pm

Don’t forget the good old, cheap as chips Airfix kit Tim. Especially if you are going to chop it up

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:50 am

I visited the Ambis stand on Sunday and purchased a pack of etched LMS letters for the signal box nameboard. A bit of a fiddle to make but I'm pleased with the result. Individual letters were cut off the fret, cleaned up and given a coat of Halfords white primer and the board with red.
When dry the letters were attached to the board using PVA.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Le Corbusier » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:19 am

Aha! another good tip ... thanks :thumb
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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Terry Bendall » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:04 am

jim s-w wrote:Don’t forget the good old, cheap as chips Airfix kit Tim.


Or even scratch build it, :) with perhaps the aid of some etched brass windows which is what I did on Elcot Road. See Scalefour News 209 page 21.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Le Corbusier » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:26 am

Terry Bendall wrote:
jim s-w wrote:Don’t forget the good old, cheap as chips Airfix kit Tim.


Or even scratch build it, :) with perhaps the aid of some etched brass windows which is what I did on Elcot Road. See Scalefour News 209 page 21.

Terry Bendall


Hi Terry ....

See earlier above - my initial plan is to have a go at scratch building from plasticard .... but if there are appropriate etched brass windows available for my type of box, fantastic :D
Tim Lee

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road Jubilees

Postby barrowroad » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:31 pm

I have started to convert some of my Bachmann short firebox Jubilees to P4 in order to run them on my layout. This project had been stalled for a while as I pondered on the best way to do this, however a visit by Dave Holt, David Clarke and Steve Ridgeway in September gave me the necessary push to get on with it. My conversion replaces the wheels with an Alan Gibson 3mm axle set of drivers plus bogie and tender wheels. Replacement crankpins are Markits stainless steel products. The only other modification is to use a Dave Franks Stanier chassis kit on the tender.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Dave Holt » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:26 pm

Robin.
Looking good - you can't have too many Jubilees. If they all run as well as David Clarke's example, I'm sure you'll be well pleased.
Best wishes for Christmas & New Year.
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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby triumph3 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:58 am

Seeing my example of 45572 “Eire” next to yours Robin makes me realise I need to get the tender closer to the loco and I need to better fill the space under the cab with injectors and pipework. I have some injectors from Comet so will fit them, they won’t be as good as the plumbing Dave Holt produces but at least they will create an impression.

David

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Dave & David,
Here is a short video of Bengal moving on shed.


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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:12 pm

My latest conversion is a Bachmann Patriot which has the same chassis as the Jubilee. Wheels are again Alan Gibson with Markits crankpins which have been spaced using 4 x 1mm washers per axle. Brake shoes have been removed an refixed with additional plasticard spacers. The tender has a Dave Franks Fowler sprung chassis.


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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Dave Holt » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:28 pm

Very nice, Robin. As with the Jubilee, the running is excellent.To me, it looks like the eccentric rod travel is a bit too much. Can you reduce the throw of the return crank or is it fixed now?
Must say, I my opinion, original Patriots were ugly looking locos. Are you planning to fit a large taper boiler? :mrgreen:
Dave.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Horsetan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:36 pm

Dave Holt wrote:...As with the Jubilee, the running is excellent.To me, it looks like the eccentric rod travel is a bit too much. Can you reduce the throw of the return crank or is it fixed now?.....


Hope not; both the Jubilee and the Patriot's offside return cranks are pointing in the wrong direction - makes the engines look as though they have outside admission valves rather than inside.... or should that be the other way round :?: :-?
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:47 pm

Dave, Thanks for spotting this. I positioned the modified Markits crankpin slot in the same vertical orientation as the original Bachmann pin but for some reason the crank fit turned out different. I have now rotated the crankpin forward through 45deg to give the correct crank position.When are you coming down again?


Ivan, you are quite correct the Jubilees have the same problem. They are next on my list.

Fortunately I could remove the lock pin I had fitted to the crankpin which enabled adjustment to be carried out with the turn of a screwdriver.

Robin

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:47 pm

Crankpin correction completed. The obvious benefit of re-using the Bachmann motion - with the Markits crankpins - is shown with the ease of removal of the screws, realignment of the crankpin and refitting the crank.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby Dave Holt » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:34 am

Robin,
That looks absolutely fine. Have you managed to sort out the other side?
Dave.

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:31 pm

Dave,
Not just this side but the other as well, oh and the two Jubilees:-)

Robin

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Re: Bristol Barrow Road

Postby barrowroad » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:39 pm

Bristol Barrow Road had a number of visitors on shed yesterday with visiting locos from Society Members, Dave Holt, David Clarke,Mike Garwood and Morgan Gilbert all of whom have contributed locos to this fabulous collection seen on shed. The two southern locos belong to Paul Hutfield.

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