Finally Made A Start in P4!

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CDGFife
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:08 pm

SO now I'm almost recovered from the experience of Glasgow (apart from the stinking cold) I've finally found time to upload a few photos taken of the stand:

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Pelmet still needs another coat and signwriting, also no electrics at this point so no overhead lighting!

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That's better lit!

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The Cadhay St Mary (left hand end) fiddle yard operator working open to the public got lots of questions through the weekend on the block instruments etc. Also still missing wing curtains as I needed the layout up to measure them but didn't have space to get the layout up to measure them.......

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Left hand end still looks a bit sparse but will be detailed soon!

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I promise we had lots of Southern locos on duty, just not when I was photographing - perhaps the Scottish lot are trying to tell me something! ;)

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby QuentinD » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:36 pm

Exquisite modelling. The scenery alone is superb, and if the ballast is anything to go by the left hand side will really be something when completed.

Shame about the scarcity of SR locos in the photos ;), maybe others will upload their own photos from the show?

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Serjt-Dave » Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:53 am

Seems like only yesterday that it was just bare baseboards. My how they grow up fast. A lovely looking layout and coming on a treat. I still see that there's a western lurking about on it. Hmmm!

Dave

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:09 am

Dave - don't worry! I have 2no G6 models on my workbench in various states of construction/conversion that will finally see the GWR pannier retired.

Chris

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Serjt-Dave » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:58 pm

:thumb

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Terry Bendall » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:42 pm

Having seen Chris' layout in the flesh at Glasgow I was very impressed with the presentation - very much in the style of a theatre perspective even down to the proscenium arch and front tabs (curtains). It is good to know that other curtains are due to be added to screen the fiddle yards. In addition Chris has borrowed an idea from Michael Ball's Ferring with curtains behind to screen the stand behind the layout. All very impressive and the complete board at the right hand end showed what will be achieved in terms of scenic work. As has been mentioned, the layout has been invited to Scaleforum this year and those who come will be able to see what a beginner has achieved in about four years. :D

Terry Bendall

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:35 pm

Whilst most of my free modelling time since the Glasgow show has been spent on Cadhay's stock, I have managed to do a bit of scenic stuff on the layout, and after a conversation with Tim Lee at Railex I took a few "in progress" snaps of the climbing rose that has recently found it's way onto Cadhay's farmhouse. So here goes:

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I started with some multi core copper speaker wire, cut to length and one end soldered together.

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The individual multi strands are starting to be teased apart, cut to length and the branches soldered to maintain the shape.

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The lower branch (for under the window) was shaped out here, with the upper branches still to do. Bear with it - things will start to get more recognisable soon!!

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This is how it looked once all the branches were cut to length, formed and soldered.

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A quick spray of grey primer and a brush of brown/green acrylic paint (apologies for the upside down pic) and we're ready for leaves.

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Next was hairspray, green flock (Noch Laub Mid Green and various Green Scene green colours) plus some pink flock for the rose flowers, all sealed with lots of hairspray.

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And the finished rose now planted and climbing up the farmhouse. Just got to plant up the front garden!!


I've also added some more plantations of trees/bushes which has really had the effect of bedding the farm into the landscape a bit more:

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Cheers All

Chris

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Alan Woodard » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:21 pm

Beautiful modelling Chris. The layout looks stunning.

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Le Corbusier » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:21 pm

Chris,

Thanks ... really appreciate this. Am frankly in awe of the scenic modelling - ever thought of a book? ;)

Cheers

Tim
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Serjt-Dave » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:51 am

Excellent work there Chris. The climbing rose is a masterpiece by itself and fits lovingly on the house. Overall you have a stunning layout.

Dave

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Terry Bendall » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:07 am

Yes the layout is looking very good Chris. It will of course be on display at Scaleforum this year allowing all members the opportunity of seeing an excellent first time layout achieved in a little over three years.

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Le Corbusier » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:58 am

Terry Bendall wrote:Yes the layout is looking very good Chris. It will of course be on display at Scaleforum this year allowing all members the opportunity of seeing an excellent first time layout achieved in a little over three years.

Terry Bendall


No Pressure there then Chris ;)
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:30 pm

Just back this evening in Fife from Aylesbury, Scaleforum 2018. There should be some more photos coming but here's 3 that sum up my weekend:

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No - it MUST fit!

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All that layout came out of that small Transit and it got there in one piece.

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There's always one who's not looking at the camera - in this case it's my Dad!


Thanks to everyone that took the time to speak with me and the crew. Really enjoyed the whole thing, and coming third behind 2 absolutely lovely layouts in the vote had me well chuffed!

Sorry about the bells Tim....
Don't mention the booths Mark.....

Very tired

CDG

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Le Corbusier » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:40 pm

respect :thumb Fantastic effort and for me a real inspiration ;) loved it warts and all :D
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:42 pm

Thanks Tim, sorry we didn't get too long to chat on Saturday.

CDG

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Mark Tatlow » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:27 pm

CDGFife wrote:Don't mention the booths Mark.....


As if....................

But you know what modification you need to do...............
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby PeteT » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:40 am

Hi Chris,

I didn't get much time to look around over s4um, but one thing that I managed to see and notice was the blending of shades & colours through your grass. It looked brilliant!

Was this done using different scatter materials, or paint? Sorry if this has been covered previously.

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:53 am

Pete, thanks for the comments.

The grass on Cadhay is generally static grass of varying shades. Unlike a lot of advise, I start with brown painted landform, mainly just Burnt Umber acrylic with a few blended highlights of yellows/greys/etc. Then I tend to put over a base cover of (mainly) short fibres using a Flockit applicator and trying to get the core colour of what I want to achieve. I NEVER use just one colour/type of grass in a pass, giving them a good stir with a wooden spatula in the applicator. After the base coat I add taller grass onto patches of hairspray and keep blending with lots of passes (the hairspray means you can get these done fairly quickly instead of waiting for glue to dry). Finally I go over the grass with various scatters (Woodland scenic fine Turf Blend is a favourite) to pick out highlights, add accents and/or blend things together.

The most important thing however I think is to work from reference photos to get the overall differences in colour, size and texture. For example most embankment/cuttings of my period were kept short and had a definite faded, paler tone than say the cow field, which is a much greener colour. Also sheep fields are generally closer cropped than cow fields for example, so it's really about having a load of different options to try to reflect what you see. To this end I'm incapable of passing a scenic trader without purchasing at least a couple of packets of static grass and flock!!

One of the most overlooked bits of grass I find on layouts is the additional growth that's almost always present around fences and posts. I use the scatter material and hand plant 12mm fibres in little tufts around fence posts for example, here's a couple of snaps showing an area prepped for fence posts (more long statics will go in after the posts are fixed) and a bit of finished fencing:

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You can also see a patch of blended scatter in the field in this photo.

Hope that helps

Chris

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Le Corbusier » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:24 pm

Thanks for the master class Chris. Lovely work
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Steve Carter » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:58 pm

CDGFife wrote:
The most important thing however I think is to work from reference photos to get the overall differences in colour, size and texture.

Chris


Absolutely agree Chris.

It’s also important to work on scenics under the same lighting that you are using for a layout. It does make a difference and, for me, Chris has got it spot on. Love it.

Steve
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby petermeyer » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:29 am

Very impressive overall!

Can I ask how you did the road surface on the road bridge please?

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:49 am

Thanks for the comments folks.

Steve - I agree entirely. I have my exhibition lights permanently set up above the layout (another advantage of LED strips) so all colour matching can be done in the knowledge that it will look right everywhere.

Peter, the road surfaces are profiled in filler (Screwfix powdered type mixed very stiff), then, once dry, painted with Greenscenes textured paint. For Cadhay's colour I used a blend of "Concrete", "Devon Soil" and "Dark Earth". Generally the technique is to paint on the Concrete colour and add highlights of the other two mixing and blending wet into wet. The usual "if you lash up the colour, let it dry and start again" safety net applies here also! You do have to use a brush you are prepared to sacrifice though and the previous comment about colour matching to a reference local to your layout if possible, applies here too.

Hope that helps

CDG

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:15 pm

Busy preparing Cadhay for it's trip to Houten show in a couple of weeks.

Tiling/slating roofs is a job I find a bit tedious. The roof on Factory B has been languishing in grey paint (thanks to Ray Nolton at Glasgow last year) for far too long so over the weekend I set to with a clutch of Marillion albums for company (prog music is another of my anoraks!) and got the slates on. Still needs weathering and a variable wash, but at least they're on.

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And after...
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Once the weathering is done, next up are the drains and the sliding door, followed by a canopy of some sort over the loading dock.

Cheers

CDG

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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby Le Corbusier » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:15 pm

But what would Fish say? ;) Cycling, Prog Rock and Railways ..... interesting mix - that makes some ven diagram :D
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Re: Finally Made A Start in P4!

Postby CDGFife » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:07 pm

They may all involve anoraks?

There's actually a Marillion album called Anorak-no-phobia.

CDG


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