Making a start, my P4 plank...

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Tim Horn » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:30 pm

Nice work John , enjoying this one :)

John F, I converted a newish class 20 yesterday and had a similar problem with derailments. It turned out to be the leading bogie not sitting square on the rails. If you look at the pic below, you can just see the inner axle on the lead bogie not sitting level with the rail. I just took a small round file and went a bit deeper on the bogie where the axle locates on the opposite side. Problem sorted now and it runs fine and sits square. I've also thinned down the brake gear, not by much but enough. Worth checking the levels on yours perhaps for the same problem. The other (cab end) bogie was fine out of the box.

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Postby John Donnelly » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:38 pm

Tim Horn wrote:Nice work John , enjoying this one :)


Cheers Tim, much appreciated.

Tim Horn wrote:I've also thinned down the brake gear, not by much but enough


I managed to destroy mine in the process of thinning it so looking for some spares.

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Postby John Donnelly » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:04 pm

Weathering of the shed has continued with the brick work completed and some additional, subtle, streaks of brown added. We also have a buffer stop on the right hand track, the other one will get a PH Designs one in the fullness of time. In other news, following a visit to York on Sunday, I've now joined the 21st century and gone DCC, came home from the show with a controller and a Zimo sound decoder and sugar cube speaker for the 08.

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Postby DougN » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:29 pm

Good on you John, I think you might find the freedom of DCC and the sound will change the experience of running trains. Both have added alot to the my experience of runnign trains. Sound tends to slow down operations to what it should be in reality. The other thing I have found is sound is good in short periods.

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Paul Willis » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:16 am

johndon wrote:Weathering of the shed has continued with the brick work completed and some additional, subtle, streaks of brown added. We also have a buffer stop on the right hand track, the other one will get a PH Designs one in the fullness of time. In other news, following a visit to York on Sunday, I've now joined the 21st century and gone DCC, came home from the show with a controller and a Zimo sound decoder and sugar cube speaker for the 08.


Hi John,

Those are a couple of really nice pictures. I particularly like the weathering on the building. Very subtle, and very realistic...

When you have the second buffer stop in place, how about a couple more pictures like that?

If you can send high-resolution (straight from the camera) copies to "marketing@scalefour.org" then that should find its way to me :-)

They would be really useful to have in hand for future use in Society adverts, so you never know where or when they may appear...

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:11 pm

Thanks Paul - no problem with the pictures as soon as the buffer is in place and the other shed side is weathered, I'll get some pics over to.

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:49 pm

I've been working on the shed that forms the scenic break at the left hand side of the layout. Brackets have been added for the gutters although I see in the pics they need trimming down a little and a down pipe has been added and weathering (this is heavy as the idea is that the shed has been out of use for some time) has started. The building is still removeable at this stage as the far side and roof still need the weathering treatment, you can also see hints of the 'picture frame' that will frame the front of the scene.

Pics are little difficult as this is right at the front of the layout so nothing to rest the camera on.

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:32 pm

Still plugging away at this one, here's a general view over the right hand end as it is at the moment:

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Postby Armchair Modeller » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:37 pm

Looking very atmospheric. Well done :thumb

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Postby Mark Tatlow » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:59 pm

Looks good!

One of my abiding memories of any diesel staging depot was the black congealed mess on the track and ground from diesel oil and a few years of muck ground in.

Sometimes it was fairly matt in colour but in any areas of fresh spillage it was a stain/gloss tone. Between true black and a very dark grey, with a the odd tinge of multicolour.
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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Knuckles » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:13 pm

Really like these latest pictures you have posted. In such a small space it has much atmosphere and is all very convincing to my eye. Also the fence in the foreground is a nice touch, giving that 'peering over' feeling of actually being there.
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Postby DougN » Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:13 am

Have to agree with knuckles on the last photo. I find model photography quite addictive at times. I find it strange I really debated buying a chassis2 which I have yet to try.... But a lens for the camera which was almost the same cost... I really didn't debate it all that long. It is the time to set it All up and try out the various positions framing settings on the camera... There goes a few hours of just mucking around and with the digital cameras no worries about film and processing you know what you got almost instantly.
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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:56 pm

Weathering of the right hand shed has begun and I've added a Ratio loco hoist in front of the shed:

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Postby Armchair Modeller » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:00 pm

Some nice weathering there :thumb

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:27 pm

Work continues with weathering and detailing around the right hand shed.

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Postby Armchair Modeller » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:06 am

Looking very nice, John! You must be very pleased with the results.

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:16 am

Armchair Modeller wrote:Looking very nice, John! You must be very pleased with the results.


Thanks for that, yes I am pleased, so much so that, now I've proved to myself that I can manage with P4, I've got the Templot plans drawn up for something new that is going to 18' long and 3' wide :)

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Postby Armchair Modeller » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:36 pm

I quickly came to the same conclusion about managing with P4 - though a big layout is definitely more of a challenge than a small one!

I look forward to seeing your plans and how the new project develops!

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby steve howe » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Just found and enjoyed this thread, I believe there is a lot of mileage in these small projects, either as a 'first dip' into P4 or as a refresher from a longer term project. I am currently making a P4 version of the 'Inglenook' concept, partly as an excuse to build a tandem turnout (the Inglenook can be done 'by the book' on a 4' plank if you use a tandem rather than two turnouts) and partly as a 'hands on' exhibit for visitors to a show.

I'm saying no more in case that Bendall bloke pounces on me.... ;)

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Terry Bendall » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:47 am

steve howe wrote:I'm saying no more in case that Bendall bloke pounces on me


Consider yourself pounced upon Steve. :D :D How about 2016? :D

John has already been pounced upon, just waiting for him to get back to me :) (Sorry John)

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Tim V » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:56 am

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:36 pm

steve howe wrote:Just found and enjoyed this thread, I believe there is a lot of mileage in these small projects, either as a 'first dip' into P4 or as a refresher from a longer term project.


Thanks Steve, there is no doubt that without doing this first, I'd have either never moved to P4 or gone in to far at the deep end and potentially put myself off for life, this way I've been able to make the mistakes on a small scale and know for next time (one thing I'd definitely do an another small layout would be to use a 3 way or tandem turnout as the 2 I've used do take up rather too much of the available space). This one will get finished and, when I'm feeling brave enough, I will exhibit it.

The next layout is of a real location albeit with a slightly rewritten history.

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby Jonathan Hughes » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:50 pm

Glad to have found your thread over here John... there's some odd stuff going on over in RMW; glad the plank's progressing well and providing me with some inspiration to do something similar as soon as the mojo returns.
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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby John Donnelly » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:44 am

Jon020 wrote:there's some odd stuff going on over in RMW


Yeah, I'd noticed :?:

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Re: Making a start, my P4 plank...

Postby iak » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:14 am

Jon020 wrote:there's some odd stuff going on over in RMW;


Well that makes a change then... :D :shock: :?
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