Modelling Class 40s

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waveydavey
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Modelling Class 40s

Postby waveydavey » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:59 pm

After the fun of chopping up class 25s a few months back I've turned my attention to class 40s. Turns out to be much more work than the baby Sulzers as even the hybrid Lima/Bachmann body still needs plenty of work to get it 'alright'.

http://waveydaveysmodelmuddle.wordpress.com/2014/04/10/more-plastic-mangling-class-40/

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Hardwicke
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Hardwicke » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:26 am

I've got the MOK one. Looks fantastic though I bet something is wrong!

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby jim s-w » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:14 am

The MOK 40 (and 47 for that matter) are pretty highly regarded, in the looks stakes at least. Not so sure abouth the mechanicals though.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby waveydavey » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:28 pm

At least the nose side grill looks a lot closer to the correct size. Bachmann have got it far too wide on both the original and new versions.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Hardwicke » Mon May 05, 2014 8:28 am

Dare I saw that the particular 40 is still 00 but runs very well. There is a lot of crap spoken about the running qualities of the MOK locos. I guess it depends on the builder.
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:59 am

Hardwick wrote:I've got the MOK one. Looks fantastic though I bet something is wrong!

MOK_DSC0490.jpg


Can I just say "you lucky lucky lucky b......".

I spoke to Dave Sharp about the MOK "40" some years ago, and he said he couldn't reproduce it now as he no longer had the artwork for it.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Tor Giffard » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:02 pm

....those modelled by the Barrowmore boys on Mostyn are of an impressive standard...most variants covered and to a similar level.

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Simon Glidewell
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Simon Glidewell » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:58 pm

There was a MOK class 08 kit for sale on Ebay the other day.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:09 pm

Simon Glidewell wrote:There was a MOK class 08 kit for sale on Ebay the other day.


Seen it. That one is likely to go sky-high, as with anything bearing the MOK label generally does.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby martinm » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:53 pm

Horsetan wrote:Seen it. That one is likely to go sky-high, as with anything bearing the MOK label generally does.

If it's this one, 281512601484, it has reached £85.69 in only two bids - though that is still perhaps comparable to, say, a Judith Edge kit.

It seems that anything by a 'named' kit manufacturer is now a collectable item rather than something for the modeller.
It's a shame, but it has happened in other areas too - I just don't see why an opened and rather nondescript box inspires such an audience.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:48 pm

martinm wrote:...It seems that anything by a 'named' kit manufacturer is now a collectable item rather than something for the modeller....


Possibly because it's not produced any more.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Simon Glidewell » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:10 am

Horsetan wrote:
martinm wrote:...It seems that anything by a 'named' kit manufacturer is now a collectable item rather than something for the modeller....


Possibly because it's not produced any more.


Sorry to stray from the class 40 thread, but just to agree with Ivan; kits like Impetus and Falcon Brass are good examples of this. The latter is supposed to be appearing again I believe, but so often a range purchased by someone else just quietly disappears; I feel that No Nonsense Kits, now with Phoenix, is one heading that way sadly.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:15 pm

Phoenixes don't always rise from the ashes.
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Trevor Grout » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:03 pm

such as Sharman Wheels *KOF*

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:52 pm

Trevor Grout wrote:such as Sharman Wheels *KOF*


...or DMR, or Churchward, or BSL, or.... (add your much-missed brand here)....
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby John Palmer » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:44 pm

BSL became Phoenix, as marketed by the Southern Railways Group. Details of the Phoenix range are here:http://www.srg.org.uk/oldsite/phoenix.htm. Or is that just an out-of-date web page?

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:35 pm

John Palmer wrote:BSL became Phoenix, as marketed by the Southern Railways Group. Details of the Phoenix range are here:http://www.srg.org.uk/oldsite/phoenix.htm. Or is that just an out-of-date web page?


Believe me, it's *very* out of date. The SRG don't seem that interested in meeting their members' own needs, never mind that of the general public.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Simon Glidewell
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Simon Glidewell » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:31 pm

The MOK 08 on Ebay sold for £122

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:32 pm

Simon Glidewell wrote:The MOK 08 on Ebay sold for £122


Pretty much what I expected. I was out on my horse around the time bidding ended, so couldn't manage a bid using BlueHOOF Technology....and anyway, there's sod-all mobile reception in the valley below Sarratt.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby DougN » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:07 am

Ivan is that like bluepedal, bluepram..... :D
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Horsetan
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Wed May 13, 2015 12:24 pm

Just pulled out the hybrid Bachmann/Lima/Bachmann body again. It's not looking too clever. :(

Think I'll stick to just correcting the Lima bodyshell in future, as advocated by the Mostyn team.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

waveydavey
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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby waveydavey » Wed May 13, 2015 1:12 pm

Any chance of a picture or two and why you think it's not good Ivan?

Your class 40 mods on RMWeb, along with a few others, were very useful to me when I was researching what needed doing to mine.

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Re: Modelling Class 40s

Postby Horsetan » Wed May 13, 2015 1:33 pm

waveydavey wrote:Any chance of a picture or two and why you think it's not good Ivan?


I think I might have cut back a bit too far when making allowance for a correct windscreen angle.

Your class 40 mods on RMWeb, along with a few others, were very useful to me when I was researching what needed doing to mine.


My problem is that I got distracted by other people's methods for the same model, so the hybrid isn't fully finished, which is why I really need to have another go at it.

By the same token, and after so many attempts, I chanced upon Jon Hughes' method of checking the windscreen / bonnet angles for the production Deltic, and realised that this could be used for my hybrid ProtoDeltic, so I have tried to get this one going again.
That would be an ecumenical matter.


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