Southern (exLSWR) buffer stop

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Southern (exLSWR) buffer stop

Postby nberrington » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:45 pm

I just subjected my latest little diversion to some rust colouring.
I noticed on Semley the buffer stops are painted black. I would have thought they would be an interesting variety of rust colours.

Can anyone help me here? I thought of some black paint subjected to “chipping effect” treatment, so that rust shows though in vulnerable spots.

Thoughts?

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Terry Bendall » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 am

You could try looking at
https://www.google.com/search?q=railway ... 252CzifoPc

which is what I go when I put "railway buffer stops" into Google. Lots of interesting pictures. The finish would of course depend on the period and how long the stops had been installed. Two of my efforts can be seen at https://www.scalefour.org/scaleforum/20 ... _7219.html One is ex LBSC one and a more modern BR type with different paint finishes.

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby myoxall » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:51 am

I have a few minutes spare at the moment, a cup of tea, no milk or sugar, and a hot cross bun please! :mrgreen:

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Noel » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:33 am

nberrington wrote:I thought of some black paint subjected to “chipping effect” treatment, so that rust shows though in vulnerable spots.


The BR WR ones I was used to in the 1950s and 60s were black. I think that the 'paint' was actually bitumen; it didn't seem to chip, but then, what was going to cause such damage in the first place? Any derailment and/or collision, even at low speed, was likely to do enough damage to require rebuilding. I don't remember them ever showing any rust, however old they were.
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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Steve Carter » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:14 am

Don't know if this helps?

Taken from Southern Railway online, see http://www.semgonline.com/proto/sthnpaint.html where you can find the paint specs for both SR and BR(S) as well as loads of other useful info.

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BR(S)/E/12/1
Painting: Buffers
White beam with 5inch Red horizontal band.
All supports to be Green Nº3a in the vicinity of Platforms, elsewhere to be tarred
In vicinity of platform to be: Green Nº3a
Hydraulic buffer casings, pipes etc. to be: Green Nº3a with Red Nº buffers Moving parts are NOT to be painted
Lamp on buffer beams to be: Black Nº6
Target around lamp to be: White Nº2 in sidings, and Red Nº9 in terminal platforms
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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby nberrington » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:26 am

Terry Bendall wrote:You could try looking at
https://www.google.com/search?q=railway ... 252CzifoPc

which is what I go when I put "railway buffer stops" into Google. Lots of interesting pictures. The finish would of course depend on the period and how long the stops had been installed. .......

Terry Bendall


That’s why I thought they would be solid rust - most contemporary pictures I’ve seen or buffer stops I’ve looked at were rust. The tar thing makes sense though....
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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Serjt-Dave » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:16 pm

Hi There. Where did you get these LSWR/ SR buffer stops please?

Keep Safe

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby nberrington » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 pm

Serjt-Dave wrote:Hi There. Where did you get these LSWR/ SR buffer stops please?

Keep Safe

Dave.


Hi Dave - the LSWR one in the picture is from Martin Finney - sadly they are no longer in production and no one has taken over the tooling. I spoke to him a few months ago, and he still has the moulds somewhere. (If there is a commercial party interested, you should speak to him.) The kit is very well done, although the whitemetal castings do get distorted if not stored carefully, or you own a feline modelling assistant.

There is a later SR version available from Lanarkshire Models.

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Serjt-Dave » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:37 pm

Thanks Neil. Lanarkshire Models are meant to be bring out the LSWR version but not heard from them regarding them.

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Dave Franks » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:42 pm

Still working on it.....

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby Steve Carter » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:17 pm

Dave Franks wrote:Still working on it.....

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Worth waiting for if the LB&SCR one is anything to go by :thumb
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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffet stop

Postby MarkS » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:14 am

What is a "Buffet" Stop?

signed: Socially Confused... :D
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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffer stop

Postby nberrington » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:31 am

Hurumph. The Ontario Typo Police.
Tried to fix it sir. Only partially successful.

To answer the question though, it’s when the waiter and Foody Goody brings out the deep fried scallops.

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Re: Southern (exLSWR) buffer stop

Postby Steve Carter » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:37 am

nberrington wrote:Hurumph. The Ontario Typo Police.
Tried to fix it sir. Only partially successful.

To answer the question though, it’s when the waiter and Foody Goody brings out the deep fried scallops.


Washed down with a wee dram :D
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