May's Meeting 2010

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May's Meeting 2010

Postby Mike Garwood » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:59 am

A good crowd gathered for our May meeting and just as well as there was a feast to be had. Firstly, we had a discussion over fiddle yard boards and how they should be built for the up coming LMJ project. Dave Hagger had put forward a thought provoking presentation using quality doors as the basis for the boards. This was knocked about by the members but no serious objections could be made. One good point made was the location of the self contained legs, the fulcrum point of which is to be moved, so that the board does not lean all it's weight on the joint to the next board - one set of legs per board, piggy backed onto the next. If anyone on this forum can think of any hidden problems we'd like to know...before we commit the cash to buying the doors.

A big thank you to all who brought back the completed half track for the fiddle yard roads, alot done, but a lot more to do!

The next part of our evening was taken up by Steffan Lewis, who kindly gave of his time to make a presentation on detailing locomotives, using the techniques that he had formulated (so successfully) over a number of years.

The first observation from Steff, was the depth of boiler bands. This is something that I've had problems with for years as the over scale appearance on all proprietary models and kits always spoils the model. Steffan's solution was to get rid of them. There is a good argument for this as Steff produced various photos showing just how smooth the boilers appeared. An excellent example was a clear photo of a Canton based Brit, where the boiler appeared just to have been just been lined and the bands themselves were not present.

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The action is a 'potatoe peeling', for the best effect and when complete, a fibre brush over to tidy up with.

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Of course when you do this sort of work you inevitably 'trim' off some of those pesky small rivets. Never mind, Mr Lewis has a brilliant solution for that as well.

For this you will need some guitar wire - from the smallest string on the guitar (top C) , something to hold it in, some quick drying plaster, water and wood glue.

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You need to end up with a paste thats slightly tacky, it should not run/drip off the end of your wire. Experimenting will get you there and we're not talking mega bucks for the bits required for this either.

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Here are a couple of photos showing before and after, using this technique. The engine belongs to Bernie, an Ivatt 2-6-0, which as you'd expect, from this accomplished modeller, runs as sweetly as it looks.

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As you can see a definite, immediate improvement!

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A line of missing rivets, must have taken all of 30 seconds to do!

The next photo shows the sketches that Steffan made to add smoke box door dart and cab handrails.

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These sketches are produced with the kind permission of Steffan Lewis



Self explanatory really, but cracking good ideas, that really lift any model that you are building. I'm very grateful to Steffan for giving up of his time and also for answering all the daft questions that the group came up with!

Our next meeting will be on Weds 30 June. This will be our last meeting until August.

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Re: May's Meeting 2010

Postby Tim V » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:19 pm

Mike Garwood wrote:A good crowd gathered for our May meeting and just as well as there was a feast to be had. Firstly, we had a discussion over fiddle yard boards and how they should be built for the up coming LMJ project. Dave Hagger had put forward a thought provoking presentation using quality doors as the basis for the boards. This was knocked about by the members but no serious objections could be made. One good point made was the location of the self contained legs, the fulcrum point of which is to be moved, so that the board does not lean all it's weight on the joint to the next board - one set of legs per board, piggy backed onto the next. If anyone on this forum can think of any hidden problems we'd like to know...before we commit the cash to buying the doors.


I presume you mean good quality hollow core doors - these I find can be pretty stable. However they aren't designed for knocking nails into all over. Also ensure that whatever you glue onto one side, does not start to warp the doors.
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Re: May's Meeting 2010

Postby Andy W » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:45 pm

I think you're right, Mike, regarding over scale boiler bands. It's annoying when you find these on etched boilers in kits. However I found a simple way of overcoming this problem on a couple of unrolled boilers - simply roll them inside out. Of course this is only possible when there's no other half etched detail you need to preserve, but if you can it saves a lot of rubbing down.
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