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Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:23 pm
by sammakins
Hello all,
Does anyone know of a supplier of lint and rubberized horse hair, more importantly the lint.
I have tried Google searches and all the listed stockists don't have lint available on further inquiry.
The green scene website lists both but i was hoping for someone who does online ordering not just mail order.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Sam

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:32 pm
by Tim V
Lint is to my knowledge no longer available.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:24 pm
by David B
Search for 'medical lint'. There are several with UK websites. Here are a couple:

Gompels (0845 450 2420), Selles Medical (01482 317960)

David

ps. Try asking in the local chemist.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:13 am
by Dave K
davidb wrote:Search for 'medical lint'. There are several with UK websites. Here are a couple:

Gompels (0845 450 2420), Selles Medical (01482 317960)

David

ps. Try asking in the local chemist.

When the cuttings on "Pulborough" were 'grassed' many years ago we found that Boots lint was the best - it seemed to be extra fluffie.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:36 am
by Paul Townsend
dave k wrote:
davidb wrote:Search for 'medical lint'. There are several with UK websites. Here are a couple:

Gompels (0845 450 2420), Selles Medical (01482 317960)

David

ps. Try asking in the local chemist.



I tried several chemists a few years ago and was told it is not sold now due to medical disapproval.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:56 pm
by Re6/6
Rubberised horse hair is available from Green Scene tel no 01905 24298. They sell a superior quality used in antique restoration at about £5 (IIRC) for five pieces (4" X 3" X 1" approx)...

It's far superior to the awful stiff stuff glued up with thick white glue that has been the only sort available until now which is only suitable for the bin.

It makes an excellent base material to add flock to for representing brambles.

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Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:20 pm
by David B
Lovely photo, John! ;) ;)

Having seen John's brambles on Matford at close quarters, I must say that they are very good indeed (thought the fruits were a touch rubbery!), so I can recommend the horse hair from Green Scene.

David

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:36 pm
by sammakins
Thanks for the help everyone, think ill go for the greenscenes stuff whenever i see them at an exhibition!!
The embankment will have to wait for improvement until then!

Sam

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:20 pm
by smyles
I am told that Superdrug sell lint.
Mike

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:54 am
by Andy W
I suspect there is a club in Soho that specialises in lint and rubber - but I wouldn't advise you going in alone..... ;)

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:44 pm
by RobM
Sam,
I have virtually a full roll of Boot's lint bought many, many years ago which I never use and perhaps will never use.........just gathering dust in the garage probably waiting to be thrown out........perhaps could throw it in a north easterly direction..........as you are just across the border.....
pm me or e-mail me (webmaster@scalefour.org)
Rob

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:03 am
by Simon Glidewell
I make all my bushes and shrubs from hanging basket liner which is much finer than horse hair. I find it to be a very versatile material that can produce outstanding results. Once teased out to a basic shape, paint it with diluted matt enamels (browns, greens, etc) leave it to dry then tease it out further into more specific bush shapes. The paint makes the fibres harder and a bit thicker thus allowing thin branches and twigs to be made. Dab thinly with PVA and sprinkle Noch leaf material over it. The results look most convincing.

Simon

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:00 am
by Guy Rixon
Paul Townsend wrote:I tried several chemists a few years ago and was told [lint] is not sold now due to medical disapproval.


It may not be used in British medicine any more, but I saw it for sale in a Delhi market this year, just down from the shop selling X-ray machines. (And no, that's not a joke.) I would expect it to be available for on-line purchase for at least a few more years.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:07 am
by nigelcliffe
Guy Rixon wrote:
Paul Townsend wrote:I tried several chemists a few years ago and was told [lint] is not sold now due to medical disapproval.


It may not be used in British medicine any more, but I saw it for sale in a Delhi market this year, just down from the shop selling X-ray machines. (And no, that's not a joke.) I would expect it to be available for on-line purchase for at least a few more years.


I don't think that its quite the same stuff any more. I have a bag of old lint, and it has a different texture to the hairy side when compared with lint which can be obtained relatively easily online. The results with the new are different to that with the old. So, techniques have to be adapted to suit the materials. Or, search online for really old stock material.

I'd not use the lint technique anymore, except to blend with existing scenery made with it. I think other methods can give better results.

Simon's comment about hanging basket liner is interesting, I'll give it a go.

- Nigel

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:54 am
by newport_rod
J A Milton http://www.jamiltonupholstery.co.uk/products/cushions-and-fillings/hair-and-fibre-fillings, who supply furniture restorers and whom I have used in the past for that purpose do a range of Hair and Fibre Fillings, which might offer the texture you're after.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:13 pm
by Simon Glidewell
That's a useful link newport_rod. Quite a bit of bleaching required on some of those products though.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:54 pm
by DougN
I had to giggle at Guy's comment above regarding an X ray machine.... We had a ultra sound unit in the garage for about 8 months :? .... why you ask... it was a purchase off ebay by a relative who happens to be a Vet.... Cost him about $400 for a machine when new of over $25,000, problem was he was in Wodonga and the machine was in Melbourne so I had to go and pick it up for him.... didn't half get some funny looks from the Police when they saw what I had in the trailer! :o :shock: He did eventually pick it up from me... BTW you wouldn't believe how heavy the unit was.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:17 pm
by John Palmer
Apologies for reviving this moribund thread, but it seemed a suitable vehicle for seeking an update on the availability of lint in its old form and other materials having the same characteristics.

Almost 6 years on, David B's up-thread link to Selles Medical still brings up details of FastAid Absorbent Lint, but it's not clear whether this product is the old formulation that lent itself to being glued 'hairy side down' then having the backing ripped away to leave individual fibres attached to the ground surface. I found this an effective technique for representing grass although I had difficulty achieving consistent results, and would like to repeat some of my earlier attempts with this material if it can still be obtained. So my question is whether the FastAid lint offered by Selles Medical is 'old style' lint or its modern replacement in which the quantity of fibres that will detach from the backing has been greatly reduced / almost eliminated.

Looking for a possible replacement material I raised a few eyebrows at our veterinary clinic by enquiring whether gamgee retained the characteristics of old style lint. The nurse was a little nonplussed but thought that this material too is likely to have been re-formulated with fewer detachable fibres for the same reason as changes have been made to the characteristics of lint. If anyone has contrary knowledge and has found gamgee to be a worthwhile lint substitute for grass-making purposes, I'd be glad to hear of their experiences.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:56 pm
by buckie5507
A couple of years ago I experimented with domett interlining as a lint substitute.

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Jonathan

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:57 am
by John Palmer
That looks very promising for the pasture I need to simulate. I'd never heard of domett before, but it looks as though either this or bump might provide the solution I'm looking for. My wife has suggested I take a look at both in our local soft furnishing purveyors, so that will be my next port of call.

Jonathan, many thanks for drawing this to my attention.

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:02 am
by shipbadger
Jonathan,

Is this the sort of thing you used?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Premium-Qual ... XQPW5SD5k0

Tony Comber

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:22 pm
by buckie5507
The material I used in the photo is from John Lewis ( https://www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-do ... d/p2311575 ). Looking at the photo on the eBay sellers page I reckon its the same material, and at £3.95 definitely worth a punt.

Jonathan

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:57 pm
by Le Corbusier
buckie5507 wrote:The material I used in the photo is from John Lewis ( https://www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-do ... d/p2311575 ). Looking at the photo on the eBay sellers page I reckon its the same material, and at £3.95 definitely worth a punt.

Jonathan


Jonathan,

This may be a thick question :?

What was the process you used to achieve your sample ... and what else have you done?

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:18 pm
by buckie5507
The base of the sample is a block of Styrofoam painted with green/brown emulsion paint - Pebble Mosaic 2 from Dulux. The interlining is stuck fluffy side down onto the painted surface with PVA glue (Screw-fix own brand 'no-nonsense' waterproof PVA). The next step is to carefully pull the interlining away from the surface, hopefully leaving a thin layer of fibers stuck to the surface. The 'grass' is then airbrushed with Railmatch Doncaster Green tinted with a small amount of yellow.

Jonathan

Re: Lint and rubberised horse hair?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:16 pm
by Le Corbusier
buckie5507 wrote:The base of the sample is a block of Styrofoam painted with green/brown emulsion paint - Pebble Mosaic 2 from Dulux. The interlining is stuck fluffy side down onto the painted surface with PVA glue (Screw-fix own brand 'no-nonsense' waterproof PVA). The next step is to carefully pull the interlining away from the surface, hopefully leaving a thin layer of fibers stuck to the surface. The 'grass' is then airbrushed with Railmatch Doncaster Green tinted with a small amount of yellow.

Jonathan

wow! ... how have you got the effect of thicker and thinner areas of grass? ... I had assumed that it had been supplemented with static grass.