GWR P22 Ballast hopper. Lot numbers.

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GWR P22 Ballast hopper. Lot numbers.

Postby steamraiser » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:23 am

I am trying to identify the build history of the GWR ballast wagon diagram P22.

I have the following information:

Commenced 1945
Lot1501 60016/9/23/37, 60121/46/92, 60305/9/14.

Lot 1530 Diverse numbers in the 60XXXseries (100).

Lot 1575 50001-50/4-66/8 – 76/8 -145 (140)

A Total of 250 wagons built, completed in 1949.

I am assuming each Lot was in effect an order. The Lots mentioned above relate to this particular diagram of wagon.

What I would like to know is the date commenced and the date of completion for each of the three Lots.

Can anyone help me with this enquiry?

I have sent an enquiry to the NRM.

Many thanks

Gordon Ashton

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Re: GWR P22 Ballast hopper. Lot numbers.

Postby Noel » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:42 pm

You will need access to GWR records, I think, Gordon; hopefully the NRM may be helpful. I would offer the thought that steel for home market use was in very short supply after the war, with demand well above supply and government controls affecting allocations, which were only made for work the government classed as essential. This situation lasted until about 1950, when supply was more or less equal to demand [only to be upset again by the Korean War]. It is therefore quite possible that the commencement date for construction of all three lots is significantly later than the date the order was placed [which I assume is when the Lot number would have been allocated]; the close spacing of the Lot numbers suggests that all three were placed within a very short timescale, probably at the end of the war in Europe.

I presume you are aware that Metropolitan-Cammell built 50 more for BR in 1951? According to David Larkin building started in September and ended in November, so 50 in less than 3 months, compared to 250 in over 3 years by the GWR [some of which were apparently from outside builders rather than Swindon]. These figures should not be taken at face value, I know; there are too many unknown factors involved, but they do suggest that supply of materials may well have been an issue.

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