Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

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Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby John Donnelly » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:35 am

I'm building a Parkside Dundas BR 21 Ton Hopper and the buffers supplied with the kit leave something to be desired so can anyone recommend a source of replacement buffers.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby iak » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:49 am

John Donnelly wrote:I'm building a Parkside Dundas BR 21 Ton Hopper and the buffers supplied with the kit leave something to be desired so can anyone recommend a source of replacement buffers.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby John Donnelly » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:36 am

Cheers Ian.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby waveydavey » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:43 pm

Most 21 tonners had two rib buffers with a step. Some, which I reckon were the batches built by Metro Cammel, had GW pattern self contained buffers. IIRC they were all 1'8" long with 13" heads. LMS have both types in their range.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby waveydavey » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:06 pm

Having had a think I'm now leaning towards the buffers being 18 inches long instead of 1'8". I'll check and report back.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby grovenor-2685 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:22 pm

normally 1'6" for unbraked with 3 link couplings, 1'8" or more with instanter or screw couplings.
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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby Noel » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:18 pm

Unless you're looking at BR vans and opens, quite a few of the earlier lots of which were built with the shorter buffers despite having vacuum brakes and either screw or Instanter couplings.

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Re: Buffers for BR 21 Ton Hopper

Postby martinm » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:56 pm

I'm building a Parkside Dundas BR 21 Ton Hopper and the buffers supplied with the kit leave something to be desired so can anyone recommend a source of replacement buffers.
John

Although you don't say which versio of the wagon you are building, or what modifications you are incorporating, I don't think it really matters.
Rowland's British Railways Wagons shows D 1/145 with 1' 6" buffers.
Monk-Steel in Merry-Go-Round shows 1' 8", as measured, for a rebodied and fitted wagon, though still with 5 stanchions. These both appear to have "two rib buffers with a step" regardless of coupling.
One or two of Paul Bartlett's photos show self-contained buffers.
So, as recommended, work to a photograph, or use unrecorded numbers because 'it's my railway.'
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