Johnson 2f, what are the options?

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Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby jim s-w » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:17 am

Hi all

Toying with the idea of another small tender loco for Brettell Road and I quite like these

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms ... sh2253.htm

London road models do a kit but that's for the more hansome looking cab. Naturally I'm drawn to the recabbed version on the grounds that it doesn't really look right. I know OO works did a handbuilt RTR one and I've asked about their etches but no joy.

One option would be to get the LRM kit and draw up a new cab but can it really be that simple?

Any other options?

Jim

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby 45609 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:49 am

Hi Jim,

I'd ask John Redrup or Jol Wilkinson about the LRM kit. IIRC it's origin is from the George Norton range and it is possible that the kit had the later LMS cab included in the etches. Alternatively the Alan Gibson range has/had a 2F with both type of cab. I believe the model I acquired and repainted as 58165 is based on the Gibson kit.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/281/entry-10293-another-addition-to-the-fleet/

2F_2.jpg

2F_1.jpg


Morgan

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby jim s-w » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:37 pm

Thanks Morgan

That example seems to have a much lower cab than the one in the picture I linked too. The model looks too nicely proportioned in this area

Jim

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby Jol Wilkinson » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:16 pm

Jim,

contact John through the LRM website contact link. I help out at shows and have done design work for LRM, but haven't much knowledge of the MR 2F kit.

Jol

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby 45609 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:38 am

jim s-w wrote:Thanks Morgan

That example seems to have a much lower cab than the one in the picture I linked too. The model looks too nicely proportioned in this area

Jim


Hi Jim,

I hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it. The distance between the upper cab windows and roof line is much bigger on the photo you found. It made me have a look around for more photos and I found this one.

https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/LMSR-and-BRM/MR-locomotives/i-hhdg38f/A

It looks like two 2Fs in a row Both have the LMS style cab but one is a high cab the other a low cab. Beginning to wonder if I might have dropped a "you know what" when I picked the number for this loco. I never did find a photo of it and it begs the question of why some with low roof and some with high? The only definite reason I'm aware of is 2Fs that were allocated to work on the Leicester and Swannington Branch. Glenfield tunnel on this line was of very limited clearance.

cheers....Morgan

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby jim s-w » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:47 am

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news Morgan but...

https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5231/14 ... 739c_b.jpg

58165 had the high roof. The next question is did it always have this or not?

I did have a brief chat with someone on the LRM stand Jol. I guess it was John. He said he doesn't do the cab type I want.

If it turns out waiting for alan Gibson to re-run his kit gives the lower cab that Morgan has anyway then LRM might still be the way to go with a bit of my own etches. (Cab and firebox).

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Re: Johnson 2f, what are the options?

Postby 45609 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:04 am

Thanks Jim, that is just typical <sigh> :(

Looks like a change of identity for this loco is now on the cards. Wish I'd seen that photo earlier.

Morgan


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