5816 A new P4 loco

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5816 A new P4 loco

Postby TEZBEDZ » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:46 pm

I have just completed my first proper P4 conversion

5816 for the Llanfyllin Branch

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Unfortunately the Cabside Number plate is a bit wonky.

i need to tuck the black wire away above the rear wheel, do a bit of light weathering, esp the wheels and fit crew and lamps

Edited to add: This is a Dapol 14xx fitted with Ultrascale conversion wheels, a fair bit of carving and sanding and adding bits and bobs, including the Mainly Trains pack, lamp irons, fire iron brackets and some Slaters Collett Buffers

Fitted with Dinghams.

Now I have a loco and some wagons to run, I need to get back to the scenery
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Terry

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby jon price » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:31 pm

Excellent. I've used this wheelset and you really feel you are getting somewhere quite fast. Then you have to make a chassis for the next loco...
Connah's Quay Workshop threads: viewforum.php?f=125

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby TEZBEDZ » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:39 pm

The photo looks like the loco is sloping down at the back but its level on the track, must be the camera angle
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Terry

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Trevor Grout » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:29 pm

TEZBEDZ wrote:The photo looks like the loco is sloping down at the back but its level on the track, must be the camera angle


Wheels look out of quater as well....

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Andy W » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:52 am

I see the reference photo is of Worcester. I've spent many an hour looking down on this scene. Happy days.
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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby TEZBEDZ » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:53 pm

Trevor Grout wrote:
TEZBEDZ wrote:The photo looks like the loco is sloping down at the back but its level on the track, must be the camera angle


Wheels look out of quater as well....


Will have to look at that, it runs really well, though the Conversion Kit provides crank pins to use the original coupling rods and they are a bit of a sloppy fit, but as I say it worked, unlike my 45xx which took a fair bit of fettling to get quartered and running. Soon to appear on a well known auction site I think.
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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Russ Elliott » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:26 pm

TEZBEDZ wrote:Will have to look at that, it runs really well,

If it runs well, there is unlikely to be anything wrong with the quartering!

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Tim V » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:50 pm

TEZBEDZ wrote:
Will have to look at that, it runs really well, though the Conversion Kit provides crank pins to use the original coupling rods and they are a bit of a sloppy fit, but as I say it worked, unlike my 45xx which took a fair bit of fettling to get quartered and running. Soon to appear on a well known auction site I think.


if it's the Bachman 45XX, you could try recentring the rods, I did it on mine, runs a treat now. The rods do not match the wheelbase, so no matter how accurate your quartering, it will never run well.
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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby TEZBEDZ » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:59 pm

That would explain the problems, I ended up buying some universal rods and making replacements with new crank pins. Nightmare to quarter though still not sure its right which is why it may be getting shipped out
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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Tim V » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:21 pm

Although not a 45XX, I'm showing how I checked the rods on my workbench thread.
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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby nberrington » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:40 pm

Well done! A running P4 loco is a darned splendid start in my mind.
They are neat looking little loco's, even if GWR ;)

Now where's that Beattie Well Tank got to ???

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby martin goodall » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Tim V wrote:Although not a 45XX, I'm showing how I checked the rods on my workbench thread.



Could you provide a link, Tim? I looked out for this item on your workbench thread, but failed to find it.

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Rustyrail » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:27 pm

The quartering "problem" is probably due to one unpowered (floating) driving wheel moving slightly out of quarter when the loco stops? I can't remember if the old Airfix 14/58xx locos had gears on all driving wheels? I suspect not. This is a common feature on most small model locos; 0-6-0's for example, with one powered axle and two free moving axles showing a degree of coupling rod misalignment when the juice is switched off, only to be corrected under renewed power.

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Re: 5816 A new P4 loco

Postby Tim V » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:34 pm

Martin the rod check is shown on this page viewtopic.php?f=20&t=913&start=100
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