Brassmasters Blk5 45232

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby grovenor-2685 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:06 pm

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Dave Holt » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:04 pm

This is a Brassmasters kit and it, together with a fully rivetted version I have yet to build, are both entirely etched in nickel silver.
I think my previous Black 5 came with an earlier, brass version.
Not sure about current production, but an LMS 4F inside valvegear etch, shown as N/S on the web site, was supplied in brass. So perhaps they only use brass now?
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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Horsetan » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:35 pm

grovenor-2685 wrote:The website says brass!


Just looked at mine. All n/s.

Maybe the next one I buy will be brass.
That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby triumph3 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:42 am

When we produced these large LMS kits they were brass but later ones we did in Nickel solver as it solders much better. However the cost of N/S continued to increase so we reverted to Brass.
The 3 different overlays enabled us to offer the 3 variants as simply as possible. The tender chassis suspension system has also been changed, the early version used compensation beams but now uses a CSB system.

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Dave Holt » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:03 pm

The tender body is now finished except, perhaps, for filling in the half etched bend lines at the turn-ins inside the upper sides. I'll use filler if that happens.
Finishing touches include brake and scoop handles, bulkhead coping strips, vents, scoop dome, filler and lifting lugs on the rear tank top and reinforcing angles and the three lower lamp irons on the rear edge of the footplate.
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Back to the chassis, now.
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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby johndarch » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:30 pm

Very nice Dave. Let's hope all your troubles are now behind you.

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Dave Holt » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:56 pm

Thanks, John, I certainly hope so.
Just looking at the rather larger than life photos, I've just spotted blobs of excess solder on top of the two lower LH steps which I hadn't seen on the model. Now suitably dealt with.
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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby barrowroad » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:39 pm

Very nice Dave keep up the good work

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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Dave Holt » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:46 pm

Thanks, Robin.
Very modest progress since the last entry. The front and rear buffer beam overlays have been fitted, along with the front rubbing block and buffer housings (w/m buffers still to do), rear buffer housings and coupling hook. There will be no shackle as I use Alex Jackson couplings. Buffer heads will be fitted after painting.
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No modelling tomorrow as I'm back working on 35006, P&O, at Toddington (GWSR). First working party since lockdown and loads of risk assessment conditions to comply with.
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Re: Brassmasters Blk5 45232

Postby Dave Holt » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:32 pm

Not much progress, but the loco and tender are now connected. The loco and tender kits are from different periods of design and manufacture and the adjustable draw bar supplied with the loco is far too long for the later tender. The fault really lies with the tender because the draw bar pivot is far too close to the buffer beam whereas the earlier tenders were about scale in this respect. The more recent tender is not easily modified to correct this aspect, so the only solution was to make a hybrid draw bar using the etched bar at the loco end and a new part, incorporating a formed eye, made from 0.8 mm brass wire at the tender end. It took a couple of goes soldering the two pieces together to get just the right pivot centre distance so that the rubbing blocks touch but allow the required movement between loco and tender. Although the gap between loco and tender is almost scale, the fall plates on the loco do not land on the front platform on the tender, so some further work is required on this aspect.
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