Green grow the rushes 'O

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steve howe
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Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby steve howe » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:47 pm

Wouldn't it be great is someone could make flat sisal?

I was pondering this vexing question over a glass of well chilled Parafino ( it was a bit early for cellulose thinners) whilst eyeing up the scope of the scenic renovations on the Roseladden Wharf project. Years ago I had diligently stuck clumps of sisal (you couldn't buy it in straight lengths then, you had to comb your own out of baler string or hanks of plumber's hemp) painted suitably murky green, around the high water mark on my tidal mudbanks. flecked with bright yellow or brown in the vain hope they looked like yellow flag iris or bulrushes. In the light of experience they don't cut the mustard and I'm looking for better alternatives. The problem is that sisal by its nature is round in section, whereas rushes generally have flat tapering leaves. Now the difference may be minute, but its enough to affect the character of the plant.

It was whilst in mid-ponder a horticultural thought struck me - and as a lifelong gardener I ought to know this - but the waters in tidal creeks will be salt, or at least brackish, so do these marginals grow in such water? I know there are species of reed that populate tidal waterways, but again, although a reed has a cylindrical stem, its leaves are still flat.

I don't know of any material that has these characteristics in 4mm scale, but perhaps someone may know differently 8-)

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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby jon price » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:27 pm

there are these: http://www.cd3dmodelmaking.co.uk/#!land ... ails/c1xit but if you just want the leaves it should be feasiblke with a scalpel and some paper

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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby dal-t » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:51 pm

Scalelink also do a sheet - third one down here. I've not used that particular fret, but I've used others of leaves, and considering the material they are surprisingly realistic when 'tweaked' to 3D and painted.
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby steve howe » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:05 pm

A bit of digging ( ;) ) around on google works wonders:

http://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/scatter-flock-ground-cover-trees-and-bushes

These chaps seem to have it covered - if you overlook the slightly eye-watering prices!

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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby dal-t » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:27 am

Eye-watering indeed! But can you buy from somewhere that does bricks without frogs?
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby steve howe » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:32 am

Its extraordinary what people make isn't it? ideal for wagon loads or the model brickworks though ;)
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby Will L » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:43 pm

dal-t wrote:Eye-watering indeed! But can you buy from somewhere that does bricks without frogs?


Cheshire brick is often frog free, so why not.

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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby Knuckles » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:55 pm

I wish I could bring something useful to the table but again I have to be the annoying twerp always asking bone questions.

What type of frogs are we on about?

I thought model railway frogs were either literal model frogs that are about 1mm or less in size (if anyone makes them!) or a perfectly odd name for a common crossing that makes no sense. So is there a 3rd type of modelling frog now or is this a joke that is flying high above me?

Those bricks do look good though. I would like some but don't yet have a use.
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby grovenor-2685 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:01 pm

You have to think about this one from the popint of view of a brickie! The frogs on bricks are the name used for the recess on one of the mating faces that improves the key into the mortar course.
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby Knuckles » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:44 pm

Oohhh :D


Maybe the angles look like the ridges of a frogs' back and the head shape then. Or maybe something to do with mating itself, male and female frog bits/angles.

We do come up with funny descriptions.
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby mickeym » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:14 am

I believe it was the shape of the tool used to make the indent that actually looked like a Frog; which if you think about it; it probably does!

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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby andrewnummelin » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:29 am

There may be a more organic link, especially for anyone interested in modelling railways without mechanical traction....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_(horse)
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Re: Green grow the rushes 'O

Postby mickeym » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:54 pm

Something tells me that high quality note paper cut into fine strips would do the job of looking like the leaves of larger marginals......

At the bottom of the garden, I have some Yellow Flag (iris) that I borrowed many years ago from the St Erth reaches of the Hayle River - I am sure they will grow in brackish water ie nearer to the Saltings

Im not gonna sprinkle mine with Saxa just to find out though ;)


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