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Postby dcockling » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:16 am

Noel wrote:
dcockling wrote:If you feel that these layout videos are going to offend your sensibilities I would suggest that you don't watch


A bit harsh, Danny.


I didn't just mean you Noel and I did put a laughing out loud emoji at the end and I hope that no one thinks that I have been upset by any of the comments as I haven't been.

There is actually very little music in the videos, but there is a lot of very interesting narration from layout owners/builders, so if anyone does turn the sound off they will be missing more than just the (if there is any) music.

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Postby martin goodall » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:19 am

I'm looking forward to the virtual Scaleforum. This has clearly involved a good deal of effort on the part of quite a few people. The printed flyer with Scalefour News showed that there will be some interesting layouts on show, and some useful demos.

As for musical accompaniment to the videos, my reaction to the trailer was simply one of amusement. It's certainly not a problem so far as I'm concerned. If I find the musical accompaniment to any of the videos distracting I'll simply turn the sound down. Simples!

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Postby essdee » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:35 am

Many thanks for your, and colleagues, efforts in impending Virtual Scaleforum, Danny - many hours already gone into this, I can see clearly. Very much anticipating a fine presentation.

I have forwarded the show's link to colleagues in S&DRT Northern Area Group, not all of whom are P4 modellers, and they are also looking forward!

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Postby Tim V » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:14 pm

The 'live' Scaleforum at Aylesbury was plagued by dreadful acoustics and unintelligible tannoy announcements (glad to get rid of those).

Any music will be better than the real thing, and as Danny points out, you can always turn the volume down (can't do that in live events ...).
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Postby David B » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:56 pm

I am surprised no-one has suggested Ronald Binge's Coronation Scot. :)

(I tried to attach a clip but it seems the system will not have it.)

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Postby dcockling » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:10 pm

SCALEFORUM UPDATE

Unfortunately, for personal reasons Jim Smith-Wright will no longer be able to take part and his planned video demonstrating White Metal Soldering will not be available, but we do have a couple of late additions.

Tony Hagon is sending us a video demonstrating Modelling Buildings using a Craft Cutter and Alan Austin has sent a video showing a brief backstory to AMBIS Engineering and the use of some of these components in building the owner's own layout called "LowDale & Calver".

All the Best
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Postby Martin Wynne » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:42 pm

David B wrote:I am surprised no-one has suggested Ronald Binge's Coronation Scot. :)

They did -- see Julian's 2nd link:

viewtopic.php?p=78604#p78604

Here it is:



However, I doubt it's available royalty-free.

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Postby Julian Roberts » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:31 pm

With apologies to Danny for whose work we're all very grateful.

Coronation Scot actually composed by Vivian Ellis https://www.naxos.com/mainsite/blurbs_r ... ge=English

Coronation Scot was composed by Vivian Ellis on a journey from Paddington to Taunton in 1938 and, in Ellis's own words, "did nothing" until it was chosen as the signature-tune for BBC Television's 'Paul Temple' thriller series. With its evocation of the train setting off, then settling down to the 'rhythm of the rails', over which comes a soaring melody that everyone can hum, Coronation Scot became a great favourite in its own right.


Here's what it's like playing trains in the orchestra
https://youtu.be/VtchzNfcKvE

Quite fun seeing people's different tastes :D

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Postby Rod Cameron » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Julian Roberts wrote:Quite fun seeing people's different tastes :D


Indeed. Accompanying music is incidental, nothing intrinsically wrong with the Bach on Danny's preview or the Villa Lobos on the original Heckmondwike film. Light-heartedly I would go for Coltrane's 'Blue Train' or even 'Train' by Goldfrapp 8-) .

But enough of this frivolity, let's focus on the modelling next Saturday.
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Postby Martin Wynne » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:02 pm



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Postby David B » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 pm

Julian Roberts wrote:
Coronation Scot actually composed by Vivian Ellis https://www.naxos.com/mainsite/blurbs_r ... ge=English
Coronation Scot was composed by Vivian Ellis on a journey from Paddington to Taunton in 1938 and, in Ellis's own words, "did nothing" until it was chosen as the signature-tune for BBC Television's 'Paul Temple' thriller series. With its evocation of the train setting off, then settling down to the 'rhythm of the rails', over which comes a soaring melody that everyone can hum, Coronation Scot became a great favourite in its own right.



Apologies, Julian. You are quite right and my CD sleeve notes wrong! (Do CDs actually have sleeves with notes on?)

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Postby 4307 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:36 am

dcockling wrote:SCALEFORUM UPDATE



I know many of us are looking forward to the first Virtual Scaleforum and I thank you and everyone involved in advance for all your efforts. Will there be any live events during the day which will not be available afterwards? And if so, what is the timetable for these? I ask as I will be entertaining someone who does not have a computer and we are wanting to plan our day.

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Postby dcockling » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:33 pm

Hi Dave, thanks for you question.

The only parts which are live and will happen only when they happen are the opportunities to interact or question layout owners, demonstrators, lecturers and Society officers etc.

What this means is that person A or person B has agreed to be sitting at their computer at a specific time or times during the day to answer questions or chat via the forum, or in a couple of cases by e-mail and I will be releasing this data on Friday.

Everyone has also agreed to pick up questions at other times too, but not timetabled, so in these cases there would be a delay in the person responding.

There will be a special area of the forum created for the show. Hopefully lots of people will post and chat and we would encourage that, so that there is as strong a social element as possible given that none of us can actually meet.

Jeremy will be broadcasting live via YouTube during the day as well, and there may be a few Zoom meetings that people can join by request.

All of the layout, demonstration and lectures content will be released for viewing at 10:30 on Saturday and will remain available to view indefinitely. So you'll still be able to see everything on Sunday, next week, next month etc

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Postby 4307 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:27 pm

dcockling wrote:Hi Dave, thanks for you question.



Many thanks for your reply. Every day it gets closer and the anticipation and excitement increases. Really looking forward to it.
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Postby Martin Wynne » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:45 pm

Hi Danny,

I'm thinking of running an online Templot dabble session after Scaleforum closes, if anyone would be interested?

More about this idea: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7132

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Postby John Bateson » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:55 pm

Guess who has booked a visit to a kitchen showroom on Saturday morning expecting me to drive her there. I will of course agree very quickly to everything she says!
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Postby Bellerophon » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:27 pm

Martin,

A bit off topic but what's the music in the background? Sounds C20th English to me (it's not Delius, could it be very early Berg?). Sorry should be playing trains not being a music geek.

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Postby Martin Wynne » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:42 pm

Bellerophon wrote:A bit off topic but what's the music in the background? Sounds C20th English to me (it's not Delius, could it be very early Berg?). Sorry should be playing trains not being a music geek.

Hi Howard,

Here you go: https://www.rnz.co.nz/concert/programme ... ghthenight

Time now in NZ is 04:40 am.

I hope no NZ copyright lawyers are awake. :)

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Postby Bellerophon » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:53 pm

Ah, Kenneth Alwin, wrote some great film music too.

Many thanks, Martin

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Postby dcockling » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 am

SCALEFORUM 2020 TIMETABLE

edited to removed email addresses no longer available. Post show questions can be posted on this forum.

Before the Show
8:00 - 9:30 (BST) - The Melbourne Finescale Group are holding a Zoom Meeting (17:00 - 18:30 their time)

10:30 – Show Opens
Stores Special: Free Postage on all orders
Membership Special: Membership + Starter Pack

LAYOUTS

Our Layout Owners and Builders will be available on the forum to answer your questions and chat at the following times:

Mike Knowles – Boston Frodsham – 11:30 to 12:00 and 15:30 to 16:30

Robin Whittle – Bristol Barrow Road & Sheep Pasture – 11:00 to 14:00

John Sherratt – Central Cheshire Lines – 10:30 to 11:00

Vincent De Bode – De Graafstroom is planning to be on-line all day

Steve Hall – Drighlington and Adwalton – 15:00 to 15:30

Kent Area Group – Eridge
Mark Leigh – 11:00 to 11:30
Mike Ainsworth – 12:30 to 13:00, 15:00 to 15:30 & 17:00 to 17:30
Richard Stevens – 14:30 to 15:00 & 16:00 to 17:00

Rex Davidson and Stephen Williams – Faringdon
Rex – 11:30 to 12:30
Stephen – 14:30 to 15:30

North Norfolk Area Group – North Elmham
John Chambers – 11:00 to 11:30, 14:00 to 14:30 & 15:30 to 16:00
Denis Perkins will also pick up on any questions during the day

Geraint Hughes – Obbekaer – 12:00 to 12:30 & 16:00 to 16:30

Jonathan Buckie – Pwllheli – 11:00 to 12:00 & 16:00 to 17:30

Ted Stephens – Southwark Bridge – 12:30 to 13:00 & 17:00 to 17:30

Ray Nolton – United Mills – 10:30 to 12:00, 13:00 to 14:00 & 16:00 to 17:30

DEMONSTRATIONS

Our Demonstrators will be available on the forum to answer your questions and chat at the following times:

Rod Cameron – Lewes Project – 10:30 to 14:00 & 15:00 to 17:00

David Brandreth – Resistance Soldering – 11:30 to 12:30 & 13:30 to 14:00

Dave Keeler – Wagon Construction – 11:00 to 11:30 & 14:00 to 15:00

Chris McCarthy – Baseboards – 11:30 to 12:00, 14:30 to 15:00 & 16:30 to 17:00

Paul Willis – GW Model Riveting Tool – 11:30 to 12:00, 13:30 to 14:00 & 16:30 to 17:00 (Also on the Society Stand)

Mick Moignard – DCC Sound – 11:00 to 12:00 & 14:00 to 15:00
You can also e-mail: mick@mickmoignard.com

John Farmer – Scenics using Static Grasses and
Nick Rogers – Wagons – will aim to check in every couple of hours.

Brian Hingston – Coaches – is unfortuately not available, but Rod Cameron (above) will be covering.

Adrian Musgrave – Signals – has no access online on Saturday, but is happy to be contacted via the forum.

Alistair and Eddie Ford – Timber buildings on Blackgill – will not be available on the forum on the day.

Stuart Holt – Tree Modelling – 15:00 to 16:00

Tony Hagon – Model Building using a Craft Cutter – will be checking the forum frequently during the day and will answer any questions promptly.

ILLUSTRATED TALKS

Martin Nield will be available on the forum to answer your questions about his talk Authentic Model Railway Operation between 11:00 and 11:30 and again between 15:00 and 15:30

Jim Summers will be available on the forum to answer your questions about his talk Earning a Living between 16:00 and 17:00

THE SCALEFOUR SOCIETY


Stores Officer, Jeremy Suter will be broadcasting live via his YouTube Channel from 10:30 to 12:30 and again between 13:00 and 17:30
Full details and links on the Society Forum tomorrow.

Editor, Tim Venton will be available to discuss Scalefour News between 11:00 to 11:30 & 14:00 to 14:30

Our (non-virtual) Exhibition Organizers Andrew Ockwell (Scaleforum) and Derek Mathers (Scalefour North) will also be available to chat:
Andrew from 11:30 to 12:00 & 15:30 to 16:00 and
Derek from 12:00 to 12:30 & 15:00 15:30

The Society Stand will be manned all day, please drop by (virtually) and say hello. Look for us on the Forum.
10:30 to 11:00 – Terry Bendall and Bernie Baker
11:00 to 11:30 – John Chambers and James Moorhouse
11:30 to 12:00 – Chris Mitton and Paul Willis
12:00 to 12:30 – Steve Carter and Tony Williams
12:30 to 13:00 – Mike Ainsworth and David Thorpe
13:00 to 13:30 – James Dickie and Bernie Baker
13:30 to 14:00 – Terry Bendall and Paul Willis
14:00 to 14:30 – John Chambers and Steve Carter
14:30 to 15:00 – Chris Mitton and Tony Williams
15:00 to 15:30 – Mike Ainsworth and Terry Bendall
15:30 to 16:00 – John Chambers and David Thorpe
16:00 to 16:30 – Steve Carter and James Dickie
16:30 to 17:00 – Paul Willis and Tony Williams
17:00 to 17:30 – Bernie Baker and Mike Ainsworth

17:30 – Show Closes
But you can continue to enjoy the pages on this site at any time

After the Show?
Templot’s Martin Wynne is planning to hold a Templot Online Workshop or Dabble Session

Looking forward to 'seeing' you all tomorrow

All the Best
Danny
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Postby Rod Cameron » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:23 am

Thanks Danny. Just to note I will also be around from 3-5.

Also email at riviera@scalefour.org
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Postby Steve Carter » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:07 am

As well as being available on the Virtual Society Stand for my 'slots' I am contactable by email, as usual, to answer questions, discuss membership or just say 'hello.

Email me at memsec@scalefour.org

Enjoy Virtual Scaleforum and have a great day :thumb

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Postby nf.newling » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:30 am

Stupid question from an IT luddite, but the original welcome page for the forum included a "log in" link. When I tried to use the link, the system and I failed to find any common ground as to user name or password. I note that this link has just disappeared from the page.
As I have a (suitably socially distance) sub group of the BS4 area group coming to share the day with me tomorrow, failure to connect is not an option, so will we need to log in?

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Postby John McAleely » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:52 am

Interacting as we are now, by question and answer on the forum, requires logging in (or using the guest book). Clearly you succeeded in coming to a common understanding with the forum software about the password and username to use.

The vast majority of the show will simply require you to browse pages without logging in. Some pages will work best if you download a PowerPoint presentation. All of these are available in PowerPoint or PDF form.

I do anticipate that a big part of the work tomorrow will be helping people to log in. Start at webmaster@scalefour.org, or the contact details published in the last Scalefour news.

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Postby David B » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:53 am

For resistance soldering, I will be checking in on the Forum from time to time, in addition to those mentioned, throughout the day.


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