VIRTUAL SCALEFORUM & SCALEFOUR NORTH

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Postby Flymo748 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:12 pm

Porcy Mane wrote:
dcockling wrote:


Oh my! What a backing track. Made me feel like I'm off to an execution; not a virtual model railway show.

Something a bit more up tempo perhaps?

P


Here you are. This is one of the DJ mixes that I have playing on my work laptop when I'm getting some serious thinking done...

https://youtu.be/ufQl2NCzf6E

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Postby dcockling » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:57 pm

Porcy Mane wrote:
Oh my! What a backing track. Made me feel like I'm off to an execution; not a virtual model railway show.

Something a bit more up tempo perhaps?

P


Musical taste is a very personal thing and I've no idea what you might consider upbeat and if I did there's no reason to suppose that I'd agree. I was only able to stand about 3 seconds of what ever it was that Paul Willis posted and we're very good freinds.

I don't find Bach's Toccata and Fugue in any way funereal or downbeat, I find it inspiring and chose it for it's grandeur and drama and hopefully to emphasise the sheer scope of what has been assembled for everyone's enjoyment.

Some of the Scaleforum layout videos have a music track and some don't, people might like them, or they might not, but the music would have been the choice of whoever made the video.

Whatever else happens I hope that everyone who visits will have a great time.

All The Best
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Postby dclift » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:06 pm

I'll take Bach any day. The more the better in my opinion.
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Postby dcockling » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:40 pm

DaveHarris wrote:Expressing my lack of IT knowledge! What does one have to do to get a 'live chat' facility... if I understand from forgoing paragraphs that individuals can have live chats with demonstraters etc? :?:


Hi Dave,

I shall be asking all layout contributors, demonstrators etc to be available for at least half an hour, hopefully for more on the day. Once I have their timings I will be publishing a timetable of who will be available and by what means, when.

I'm expecting most interaction to be via the Forum. There will be a special section. So if for eg. a layout owner is timetabled to be available between 11:00 and 11:30 then people will be able to post messages and get a live response.

I don't think that it's reasonable to expect people to be tied to their computers all day which is why I'm asking them to let me know at what times they'll be available.

There may be other means. You may have seen that Jeremy Suter did a prctice run on YouTube, as he's planning to be available on a live feed most of the day and will answer questions about the Stores and his workshop activities.

People will also be able to e-mail me and as show organiser and other contributors while they are on duty and there may also be sone Zoom meetings although you'll have to e-mail me for details on the day. Small groups visiting the Society stand via Zoom for example may be possible.

Final details still to be worked out, and different people will, for personal reasons be available for different periods and in different ways, but you should be able to connect with most contributors at some time on the day.

Hope that helps

All the Best
Danny

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Postby DaveHarris » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:03 pm

Danny,

Thanks for your reply. Seems simple enough having 'live' responses through this website. I will however get my great nephew to attempt to teach me what to do if a zoom facility is on the cards!

Many thanks for all your work on this virtual scaleforum

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Postby shipbadger » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:56 am

Some of us will have a delayed start to virtual Scaleforum, my GP surgery has booked me in for my flu jab in the morning. Gives me an excuse for sitting in front of the computer as I 'recover'. :-)

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Postby Craig Warton » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:23 am

After my two children decided to get married and "ruined" my last attempt at getting to Scaleforum, I finally get to go to one. I have already informed my wife that I will be having a very late night, or early morning.

Looking forward to this.

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Postby DougN » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:43 am

Craig, it is one way we can make it with out the 20 odd hour flights each way!

I hope you are going to join the Aussie Zoom meeting!
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Postby DavidM » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:58 am

Tell us the details Doug, I’m sure the Sydney group will join you!

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Postby BrockleyAndrew » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:33 pm

Some of the Scaleforum layout videos have a music track and some don't, people might like them, or they might not, but the music would have been the choice of whoever made the video.


I recently came across OMD's Metroland and it almost made me want to model a metropolitan railway scene (ok the film clip is very cartoony)

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Postby martin goodall » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:12 pm

Just watched (and heard) the Scaleforum trailer.

I'm a dedicated classical music fan, but I couldn't help laughing. The opening passage from this Bach toccata is a favourite soundtrack for horror movies!

If you want a suggestion, how about the opening movement of Elgar's Enigma Variations? (Hackneyed maybe, but quintessentially English and upbeat.)

This reminds me of the original soundtrack for "Heckmondwike - the movie", dubbed for the film by the BBC (although the BBC was entirely unaware of this!) The music was "The Little Train of the Sierras" by Villa-Lobos. Very jaunty, but not exactly ee-bah-goom Yorkshire.

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Postby Julian Roberts » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:02 pm

I'd suggest music that isn't pompous or arresting - actually totally unemotional music that doesn't actually say anything but gives a background suggesting constant movement and momentum, preferably busy and light, and just not noticeable. The old BTF films had just the right feel, the music seems to be specially composed and recorded like on this one https://youtu.be/eayD4H2oIqY
(though forget the opening, go to 9 minutes, that's the sort of thing I mean). That's not very helpful for this situation now but there's plenty of music that would do. Something not well known so you don't associate it with anything. Martinu for example or maybe a Bruckner symphony scherzo or even some less well known Mozart or Haydn, or in the light music vein Coates or ....how about this - perfect!
https://youtu.be/CT7kbyVF-qE

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Postby hughesp87 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:24 pm

You'll have to reach your own judgement when you see my video next weekend, but as a film rookie indulging in a one-off exercise, it's actually quite difficult to find a piece of music that's (a) the right length, (b) free from charges and royalties and (c) not too intrusive on the video itself or the commentary. The last of these was quite important in my view. After all it's background that you're after, that fills in the gaps between sections of speech. You certainly don't want the viewer humming along with the music!

In the end, I found the whole process of filming and editing quite an enjoyable one, but it did keep me out of the workshop for quite a bit longer than expected!

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Postby dcockling » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:25 pm

Well so far as my trailer is concerned, it is what it is , like it or not, I have no intention of changing it now. With just over a week to go I still have lots of other things to keep me occupied. :thumb

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Postby Le Corbusier » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:31 pm

Julian Roberts wrote:I'd suggest music that isn't pompous or arresting - actually totally unemotional music that doesn't actually say anything but gives a background suggesting constant movement and momentum, preferably busy and light, and just not noticeable. The old BTF films had just the right feel, the music seems to be specially composed and recorded like on this one https://youtu.be/eayD4H2oIqY
(though forget the opening, go to 9 minutes, that's the sort of thing I mean). That's not very helpful for this situation now but there's plenty of music that would do. Something not well known so you don't associate it with anything. Martinu for example or maybe a Bruckner symphony scherzo or even some less well known Mozart or Haydn, or in the light music vein Coates or ....how about this - perfect!
https://youtu.be/CT7kbyVF-qE

Naaaah!.... its got to be :D



or perhaps :D :D

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Postby Le Corbusier » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:32 pm

dcockling wrote:Well so far as my trailer is concerned, it is what it is , like it or not, I have no intention of changing it now. With just over a week to go I still have lots of other things to keep me occupied. :thumb

All the Best
Danny

I quite liked it actually ;)
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Postby Jeremy Suter » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:02 pm

May I Just say that Danny and others have put a lot of time effort into the online show and remind you all they are volunteer's. I hope every body who joins in enjoys it and gets something out of it its a shame we can't meet in person.
All I am saying is well done Danny for organising it. You can't please all the people all the time.

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Postby Noel » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:44 pm

If this is Scaleforum, albeit virtual, why is there music at all? There is none at Scaleforum normally. For myself, anything I watch I will probably turn the sound off anyway...
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Postby Bernie » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:19 pm

I have booked a day off from work, just for Saturday. Time off is rare, ATM. I had to show the old hotel reservations to prove that we would have been off for an even longer period!
Thank you very much to everybody who is going to all this almighty effort, to make this the best day of my life this year. :thumb

For goodness sake, keep up your safety regimen.

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Postby dcockling » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:55 pm

Noel wrote:If this is Scaleforum, albeit virtual, why is there music at all? There is none at Scaleforum normally. For myself, anything I watch I will probably turn the sound off anyway...


It was suggested to me that I should create a trailer video for the show, I thought about it and did. It lasts for one minute and 28 seconds and isn't really of any importance. If people like it, fine, if they don't that's fine too. I really don't care whether anyone thinks I should have used different music or no music, made a different trailer or no trailer. It's there and it's made and I'm not changing it.

I'm organising the show, I made the video I chose the music. It works for me.

When someone else organises a virtual Scaleforum they can choose the music, or choose not to have any, I promise :D

What is important is that we have some great content lined up for you all, but any music in any of the layout videos is nothing to do with me, any music contained in them has been chosen by the person making the video. I don't mind if anyone wants to have a dig at me over my musical choices or taste, but please bear in mind that these layout videos have been produced by your fellow members for your entertainment under abnormal and difficult circumstances. So please be nice to them.

If you feel that these layout videos are going to offend your sensibilities I would suggest that you don't watch :lol:

All the Best
Danny

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Postby David Knight » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:04 am

Dear me, what a faff over music. Since this is a virtual show we all have control over volume or can mute according to taste. Much better than a live show that I exhibited at that had one layout playing the Corrie Street theme every 20 minutes or so for two whole days!

I for one want to thank Danny and all the others for going to all this trouble so that there can even be a show to distract us from these trying times. I am looking forward to this show. This will be my first Scalefourum as I live on the wrong side of the Atlantic for ease of access and have a thing about travelling in a flying Petrie dish under the best of circumstances. This avoids all complications, saves air fare and accommodation and the temptation to spend more than I can afford is eliminated.

Cheers,

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Postby Le Corbusier » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 am

dcockling wrote:
Noel wrote:If this is Scaleforum, albeit virtual, why is there music at all? There is none at Scaleforum normally. For myself, anything I watch I will probably turn the sound off anyway...


It was suggested to me that I should create a trailer video for the show, I thought about it and did. It lasts for one minute and 28 seconds and isn't really of any importance. If people like it, fine, if they don't that's fine too. I really don't care whether anyone thinks I should have used different music or no music, made a different trailer or no trailer. It's there and it's made and I'm not changing it.

I'm organising the show, I made the video I chose the music. It works for me.

When someone else organises a virtual Scaleforum they can choose the music, or choose not to have any, I promise :D

What is important is that we have some great content lined up for you all, but any music in any of the layout videos is nothing to do with me, any music contained in them has been chosen by the person making the video. I don't mind if anyone wants to have a dig at me over my musical choices or taste, but please bear in mind that these layout videos have been produced by your fellow members for your entertainment under abnormal and difficult circumstances. So please be nice to them.

If you feel that these layout videos are going to offend your sensibilities I would suggest that you don't watch :lol:

All the Best
Danny

:D :D :D :D :D :D Brilliant :thumb
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Postby petermeyer » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:50 am

Thanks in advance to all those who have taken the time and trouble to make this happen. I usually meet up with my brother at Aylesbury but I now plan to be there virtually next week especially as Warrington is back in lockdown.

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Postby Noel » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:17 am

dcockling wrote:If you feel that these layout videos are going to offend your sensibilities I would suggest that you don't watch


A bit harsh, Danny. I, as you quoted :!: , have already stated I will expect to have the sound off for anything I watch. I enjoy listening to music, but it has to be my choice of what and when. Having someone else's choice inflicted on me is annoying, especially if it distracts from the purpose of the video.

I was not referring to your trailer, which I have not watched, but to the more general discussion about music with the videos for the actual event. Musical accompaniments to TV and film are done by experts, but even they get it wrong sometimes, hence the complaints from time to time about TV dialogue being inaudible. Inappropriate music does not add to the experience, it detracts from it. So, why do we need music, anyway?
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Postby Philip Hall » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:09 am

It sounds (!) like Danny is going to do a great job and all this daft stuff about music is detracting from his efforts. Ignore it Danny, just get on with it and thank you heaps for all that you’re doing for us.

And folks, if you do choose to turn the volume off, you’ll miss any interesting comments that the layout owners make, you won’t be able to hear the demonstrators trying to help you or have any audio interaction there might be!

Philip


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