garethashenden wrote:billbedford wrote:If you don't mind some criticisms, in the spirit of "getting it all right":
Planks on wagon were only chamfered on the outside, the demarkation between them is only visual.
The insides were never painted, they were left as plain timber.
None of the photos I've seen suggest that the LNWR picked out the body iron work in black.
You really need to see a GA of a wagon to model the inside, often carriage bolts were used so there were no washer plates.
I probably overdid it on the GER wagon, but in the past when I haven't put any planking on the inside it also looks wrong.
I know they weren't painted on the inside. I meant that I needed to paint them so represent weathered wood.
Fair enough, I can change that. Iron work was black on so many wagons that I sort of did it reflexively.
I'm with you that there needs to be a representation of "something" on the inside to catch the light and show that there is a difference in texture - even if only between two planks. So my view is that you've got it about right.
In terms of the painting of the inside, well in my view that really does help the realism if there is a decent representation of the unpainted wood. It's one of the things that seems to lift a "model" above a "toy".
I'm currently painting a batch of five LNWR ballast wagons, and it can be quite tricky to determine between the darkish LNWR grey and the black that they used on ironwork _below_ the solebar to establish what is what. All that I would say is that a good picture (there are a couple of really large ones in LNWR Liveries by the HMRS) will be invaluable.
Hope that these thoughts are useful, and keep up the good work of modelling in a Proper Period!
Cheers
Flymo