Signals for Minories

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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby billbedford » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:11 am

junctionmad wrote:Could anyone suggest a company that does custom etches in small volume at a reasonable price ?


PPD are set up to do short runs of etchings and use a smaller 'standard' sheet than other companies. (their website seems to be offline this morning)
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby ianpenberth » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:03 pm

JFS wrote:In the GW case, the real deal is available from David Geen, but for other types MSE is the only game in town - warts and all.



Mike (Masokits) Clark also does some GW signal arms and parts (pp 8/9/10, Section 11, of his catalogue).
He made some rather fine looking UQ signals a few years back, for which, IIRC, he used Alan Gibson parts. They're still listed in the AG catalogue.
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby stephenfreeman » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:41 am

Hi,
Yes the original fret is not so good, the ex D&S one is better (except for perhaps the back blinders) but the best MSE one is the fret for an individual signal, as it includes all the bits that the others don't. Scalelink do a fret of GWR arms, lacks the bits you need to complete and you get a lot of arms you are unlikely to need but given the pedigree (Peter Squibb IIRC) are likely to be accurate.


JFS wrote:
stephenfreeman wrote:
What I meant by being asymetrical is that the bracing in the MSE ones is out of phase.


Right - got you now. I confess that I have never really looked at the MSE ones as they look a bit heavy handed to me. On mine there is a scale 7/8" stagger between the "sides" and the "faces" - but that is so small that it is invisible even to me!

MSE is a range that certainly would benefit from an update - many of the signals - ie the wooden GW arms - bear no relationship whatsoever to the real thing sadly. In the GW case, the real deal is available from David Geen, but for other types MSE is the only game in town - warts and all.

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Stephen Freeman
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby stephenfreeman » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:52 am

Hi,

Nothing to do signal arms or etchings but not sure if everybody knew that Alan Buttler of Modelu is now doing 3d printed Finials - the GWR ones even have the open slits and hollow ball!
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby williambarter » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:45 am

Can you suggest a source for the self-adhesive vinyl you used on the arms? Presumably it is quite thin and I was wondering about using it for wagon lettering if I can cut letters out of it.

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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby JFS » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:38 pm

Hello William,

Not sure it will work for that purpose as it is not that thin (which does not matter for a flat object like a signal arm) and it would not be easy to cut unless you are using something like a Cameo computer cutting machine.

However, if you want to give it a go, you can get it from Hannants of Lowestoft:-

https://www.hannants.co.uk/

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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby williambarter » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:58 am

Thanks anyway, Howard, I'm sure another use for this material which is new to me will come to mind as soon as I see some.

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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby stephenfreeman » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:16 am

Hi,

Just a thought - what if....

Take a sheet of waterside transfer sheet, paint it white or whatever, cut out the letters on one of these cameo cutter type thingies - would it work?

probably not for very small print but has anybody tried it?
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Noel
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby Noel » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:02 pm

Transfer sheet can be had in white as well as clear.
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby stephenfreeman » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:38 am

Hi,

Yes I know that, I was just doubting such cutters to have sufficient resolution to cut out very small transfers such as the hand-written insignia so often seen on wagons. Maybe OK for larger lettering but they have never really been much of a problem anyway.

The only semi-successful method I have ever used is to print onto standard paper, then using a normal waterslide decal sheet have it printed onto that using a colour photocopier. Obviously wouldn't work for white though.
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby jim s-w » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:45 am

What does the photocopier stage add? Just curious as to why not print straight onto the decal paper?

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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby dal-t » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:05 pm

Decal paper comes in both laser and inkjet varieties. I'm guessing the photocopier uses a laser print stage, the paper original having been produced on an inkjet.
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby stephenfreeman » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:06 pm

Yes inkjet printing onto normal decal sheet won't work, it has to be a Laser.
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Re: Signals for Minories

Postby dal-t » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:15 pm

Don't want to take this too far off the 'etching' topic, but both laser and inkjet decal sheets come in white* as well as clear, so white printing can be done, using an 'inverted' image (lettering as background, body colour as actual printing). But it is the quality of the white backing which many find inadequate (me amongst them). So you either fork out £2200 for something like this, or find a friend who already has one (but beware, the white toner itself is >£300 per refill)!

*Example of the inkjet version here, but there are many others.
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