Padgate Works - Wagon Erecting Shop

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Postby iak » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:22 pm

DougN wrote:iak... looking nice there. I just wish I patience with wagons... You are right about the BB springing it makes the wagons roll so smoooooothly.... bit like sprung loco's.... I know I have going to have to get into the wagon building mode at some time... bit like coachs.....and P4 layouts.... but I will stick to my locomotives.... Just wish I could swap a small loco for 10 wagons or so...


And I need to get some locomotive stock done Doug :D
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Postby iak » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:03 am

I have been very remiss in keeping this thread upto date of late....
To matters of a building/progressing nature:

BR Diag. 1/224 vans are in the process of acquiring brakes...

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Underframe gubbins is slowly being added to as one can see. That nice Mr Franks should find these views to his liking :lol:
I cannae find the right brake yolks so compromise may be needed.
Then I have a lot of roofs to make/sort/fettle.... :shock:
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Postby Mike Garwood » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:18 am

Iain
There's a very naughty man down in Poole who may be able to help with these...shortly. At least I hope so :o Perhaps the man himself could comment, over to you Mr Newitt.

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Postby Andy W » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:26 am

Nice Iain.

On that BR Diag. 1/224 have you used BB springs again? I can't see the spring holders. I know it's a tight squeeze to get them in to so short an underframe.
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Postby iak » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:28 am

Mike Garwood wrote:Iain
There's a very naughty man down in Poole who may be able to help with these...shortly. At least I hope so :o Perhaps the man himself could comment, over to you Mr Newitt.

http://rumneymodels.co.uk/5.html

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I already have 10 Mike :thumb
And more on order...
And he is VERY naughty......... :P
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Postby iak » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:31 am

Ealing wrote:Nice Iain.

On that BR Diag. 1/224 have you used BB springs again? I can't see the spring holders. I know it's a tight squeeze to get them in to so short an underframe.


Nope...
No suspension at all, just a sheet of glass and the patented human eyeball has provided the smooth running undergubbins from the Red Panda parts :o
I expect the Inquisition to visit later at this scandalous revelation... :? :) :mrgreen:
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Postby jjnewitt » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:26 pm

iak wrote:And he is VERY naughty......... :P


I try, then ten minutes later when I've got my breath back I try again! :)

Hi iak,

The brake yolks on the BR clap brake were very distinctive. I haven't come across them on any other vacuum braking system. They were real heavy duty affairs. Indeed the whole of the BR clasp brake strikes me as being a tad over engineered, at least for the likes of 12T vans. Here's a picture of the them for the uninitiated:

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There are some spare parts for these on my claps brake chassis etches. Might help?

Nice to see some more wagonry. I do like the home made transfers on your other thread. I must try and get some of my on going builds finished.

Keep up the good work!

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Postby Paul Willis » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:48 am

jjnewitt wrote:
iak wrote:And he is VERY naughty......... :P


The brake yolks on the BR clap brake were very distinctive. I haven't come across them on any other vacuum braking system. They were real heavy duty affairs. Indeed the whole of the BR clasp brake strikes me as being a tad over engineered, at least for the likes of 12T vans. Here's a picture of the them for the uninitiated:

There are some spare parts for these on my claps brake chassis etches. Might help?

Nice to see some more wagonry. I do like the home made transfers on your other thread. I must try and get some of my on going builds finished.

Justin,

ChairmanJohn brought one of your completed clasp brake van chassis along to CHEAG last night. The universal concensus was Very Nice Indeed.

John described the build process, and how it all fell into place. He also had an unbuilt fret, which was also much admired for the quality of the etching and the artwork. I personally noticed at least a couple of spare components, ready for sacrifices made to The Carpet God.

You may be getting a couple more orders from people as a result...

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Postby iak » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:10 am

jjnewitt wrote:
iak wrote:And he is VERY naughty......... :P


I try, then ten minutes later when I've got my breath back I try again! :)

Hi iak,

The brake yolks on the BR clap brake were very distinctive. I haven't come across them on any other vacuum braking system. They were real heavy duty affairs. Indeed the whole of the BR clasp brake strikes me as being a tad over engineered, at least for the likes of 12T vans. Here's a picture of the them for the uninitiated:

Quainton September 2013 029.jpg

There are some spare parts for these on my claps brake chassis etches. Might help?

Nice to see some more wagonry. I do like the home made transfers on your other thread. I must try and get some of my on going builds finished.

Keep up the good work!

Justin



Thanks Justin.
I may just attempt to use a few actually.
I have that many frets anyway that spares are not in short supply... :thumb

The decals are easy once one can drive the software and get the ALPS to work properly.

This set of vans was started by the way before these frets appeared by the way should anyone else be interested.
Hence the sundry collection of castings and etches :D
Any stock I build for Mostyn for the moment will continue down this auld way.
Justin's etches are for my own projects....
Wibble :shock:
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Postby jjnewitt » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:59 pm

iak wrote:I may just attempt to use a few actually.
I have that many frets anyway that spares are not in short supply... :thumb

Thinking about it a bit more there are all the OO ones on the frets that you wont need. I'm sure you could do something with them and some 0.5mm wire.

Flymo748 wrote:ChairmanJohn brought one of your completed clasp brake van chassis along to CHEAG last night. The universal concensus was Very Nice Indeed.

John described the build process, and how it all fell into place. He also had an unbuilt fret, which was also much admired for the quality of the etching and the artwork. I personally noticed at least a couple of spare components, ready for sacrifices made to The Carpet God.

You may be getting a couple more orders from people as a result...
Cheers
Flymo


Thanks Paul.

The more orders the merrier! They turn out ok when put together. Sadly I can take no credit for the quality of the etchings themselves though the people who did them a=have done a good job. I do try and add spares when I remember to the fret where I think that a part may get accidently damaged or sacrificed to the Carpet God. I always find it highly annoying when you lose a small part and then have to try and make something! I shall look forward to seeing John's builds at some point, he didn't have them finished for Scaleforum.

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Postby iak » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:27 pm

One has a point Justin, all those bits of OO with no home.
Well they have now.
Out with the etch shears then...... :thumb
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Postby Andy W » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:58 am

Iain, can you point me towards more info/a link to your transfer making and ALPS printer work? I've searched with no luck.

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Postby iak » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:12 pm

Ealing wrote:Iain, can you point me towards more info/a link to your transfer making and ALPS printer work? I've searched with no luck.

Thanks

Andy


Tis the other thread on my work bench area on this esteemed board Andy.

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Postby Andy W » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:35 pm

Got it and posted. Thanks.
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Postby jim s-w » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:29 pm

iak wrote:
Ealing wrote:Nice Iain.

On that BR Diag. 1/224 have you used BB springs again? I can't see the spring holders. I know it's a tight squeeze to get them in to so short an underframe.


Nope...
No suspension at all, just a sheet of glass and the patented human eyeball has provided the smooth running undergubbins from the Red Panda parts :o
I expect the Inquisition to visit later at this scandalous revelation... :? :) :mrgreen:


Nah some of us have been saying for years you don't need it. You might want it but you certainly don't need it on something this short.

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Postby iak » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:53 pm

The recent S'news saw this humble thread and its twin getting a mention - sincere thanks Will :thumb
Sadly of late, I'm not quite myself again. Such is life as a " beeper. "
However, the "Works" is still spluttering along - therapeutic this model making lark one knows :cry: ;) :)

More stock is bound for the "Finishing Shop. " Yet more 12 ton vans of various diagram numbers and more medfit beasties as well
There is even an SPV getting close to some primer - that is as long as I can concentrate long enough to do it...
I will get some images sorted once circumstances allow me to.
Meantime, better turn the light box off.

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Postby iak » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:12 am

And so it came to pass that the "Works" did stir once more... :thumb

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Ambis etch silliness in action on more 12t standard BR vans, diagram 1/224 in this case.
A veritable bench-full beckons the next few weeks and then it is to the finishing shop - joy!!! :shock:
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Postby Lord Colnago » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:13 pm

Hi Ian,

It looks like the dreaded "finger print in the mek pak" has got you too. Its got me a few times and I've found that by running a flat brush, loaded with mek pak or similar, across the area, just once mind, will usually make the fingerprint disappear. Give it a go. Nice work, by the way. Can't get enough wagonry!

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Postby iak » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:57 am

Some more activity in darkest Padgate...

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Two ageing MR Dia 363 vans finally getting to the finish line - its only taken 25+ years to get them this far... :D

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Another van destined for an Engineering Trip Rake on Mostyn. This LNER Dia 172 will end up in another state of terminal decrepitude.

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A venture finally begins to take fruit. Justin Hewitt and his Rumney Models range is a godsend to the wagon but. This is one of his LMS open wagon etches, Kit Ref #63. The Parkside sides are ready but they will be added post Autumn weekend away.

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Finally this time around we have a Dia 1661 LMS cattle van body. Recently assembled, it awaits its undergubbins - sprung w-irons, extra details and such.
It appears that some health stability has helped the modelling mojo or is that the other way around? :?
Mind, it could be a bit of both - wibble...
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Postby Noel » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:22 pm

I like the BR vacuum retro-fit LNER van with collared buffers, something which was not uncommon in reality, but which you don't see too often as a model.

I assume that the MR vans have plastic roofs, as they seem to have sagged a bit in the middle. Having had this problem myself in the past with some kit roofs of thin plastic card I now normally fit a length of 40 thou plastic card about 3-4 mm wide between the highest points of the ends, with the long dimension vertical, which at least reduces the problem.
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Postby iak » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:24 pm

Hallo Noel
Having checked the roofs, its the edges that are a bit out of kilter, not helped by the distortion on the lens of my smartphone...
Whooooosh says that technology is fool proof - wibble :?
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Postby garethevans1986 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:20 pm

Hope to see these finished soon Ian!

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