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Simon Moore
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Irwell street

Postby Simon Moore » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:20 pm

I thought i would start a layout post which is very much in it's infancy at the moment.

I conjured this idea up after reading far to much Rice! About 2 years ago i picked up Iain's latest book on cameo layouts whilst in llanfair station. This really opened up a can of worms whilst on holiday in deepest Wales.
Having had a big layout in the past it was very much something that could never be operated properly by 1 man & the thought of building something so big now could put me off modelling at all for months. I much prefer small but interesting layouts now especially of the light or industrial variety. This got me thinking of micro layouts or cameo scenes. I wanted to make a layout that was small & something i had a chance of getting finished. I had a piece of ply spare in the garage which was about 3ft x 18inchs & i wondered what might fit.

This plan was successful in that i built it in copperclad in EM but due to my limited skills it wasn't the best running layout. If i am perfectly honest i have never been great in the permanent way department.

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My move to P4 was because i like building locos more than anything especially industrials so i have out sourced the turnout building to someone better suited. This layout in its EM form i named Salts wharf with it being based just down the road from me in the mill complex at Saltaire. This P4 version is still going to be the same kind of setting although i might move it over the pennines to Blackburn, Bolton or Manchester. I drive Hgv's & i get to see a lot of the old mills & victorian architecture that is still with us which is great inspiration for a industrial layout.

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My mk2 version is a little larger but still a tiddler coming in under 4ft long. The fiddle yard will consist of a couple of cassettes about 18inch long for a small loco plus 3 or 4 wagons.

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The sidings are longer than the templot drawing, this was just drawn more for the turnouts than anything else. One part is missing which is an extra siding accessed from the fiddle yard for the coal drops. For now i am going to carry on building stock & i intend on making a start on a few buildings to go with it.
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Steve Carter
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Re: Small industrial shunting yard

Postby Steve Carter » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:46 pm

I will look forward to seeing this project develop Simon. I'm quite partial to industrials as well.
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Re: Small industrial shunting yard

Postby Simon Moore » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:53 pm

Thanks Steve.

I'm very much looking forward to making this mk2 version of the layout. One thing i forgot to mention is that i want to include my great grand fathers coal business into the layout. The stable building still stands & you can just make out the original name. That has been on the build over 100 years now. I am very proud to say it has survived as long as it has.

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Winander
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Re: Small industrial shunting yard

Postby Winander » Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:56 pm

Simon,

Looks to be interesting. did your grandfather have any of his own wagons? I was surprised to learn some merchants in my home town had wagons even though it was little more than a village.

Simon Moore wrote:i get to see a lot of the old mills & victorian architecture that is still with us which is great inspiration for a industrial layout.

I hope you take your camera along, even if you don't know what you will do with the pictures.
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Re: Small industrial shunting yard

Postby Simon Moore » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:06 pm

Hi Richard

Yes he did, i did some research via the lancashire & yorkshire railway society & he had a few wagons that were loaded at cortonwood colliery. I have a few slaters kits for chas roberts wagons which is prototypically correct. My friend is making me the transfers for them. My great grand father also was the first man in Nelson lancashire to have a steam wagon. It was a 6 wheel sentinel & it was named after my grand mother Eileen. He used to take victory v lozenges from the factory in Nelson to Liverpool. It must have been a hell of a drive that. I have a photo for it somewhere, again something else i want to model.

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Re: Small industrial shunting yard

Postby Simon Moore » Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:04 pm

I've been throwing around ideas in my head to try give this yard a bit of fictional history. The other thing has been a suitable name to call it. I'm toying with Ordsall street or Irwell street both which have a mancunian flavour to them.

The other thing i like besides industrials are pre groupers particularly the L&Y & LNWR. I think I'm going to incorporate the old goods warehouses from Liverpool rd Station with a wagon turntable into the rear siding. I have some lnwr kits for stock & locos which could easily be used here. I'm thinking maybe the yard could be something like liverpool rd which has been taken over by a manufacturing firm with a internal railway, nothing much changing structure wise since the victorian era.

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Re: Irwell street

Postby steve howe » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:47 pm

I'm liking the look of this Simon, just the thing for a couple of ex L&Y pugs to shuffle about on! (I can heartily recommend the High Level chassis kit for the Hornby body) :thumb

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Re: Irwell street

Postby Terry Bendall » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:32 am

steve howe wrote:The other thing has been a suitable name to call it.


For urban layouts, one method is to look at a street atlas index for the area and find names that appeal and perhaps change "road" to "street" or other similar changes. That is how Elcot Road got its name.

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Re: Irwell street

Postby steve howe » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:06 am

Are you thinking of extending the siding the train is standing on, back parallell with the 3-way into the cassette deck to create a run-round facility?

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Re: Irwell street

Postby Simon Moore » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:29 pm

Hi Steve, yes the bottom line & 3 way create a run around which will go to small cassettes which will hold a loco & 5 wagons.

Today i took stock of all my rolling stock & locos. My original thought was to make this a inner city goods yard now in private use but the location & industry is changing.
As the majority of my wagons are coal wagons of some kind & the 3 locos i am currently working on are all NCB i thought i would change this layout to a small colliery.

I follow the Bowes railway on facebook & they posted a old photo from 1910 i think it was of Hobson colliery at Burnopfield. This tiny colliery will suit my layout perfectly so i am going to use this as the basis for the layout although run whatever takes my fancy on the layout. So it could be north eastern area ncb one minute the north yorkshire area group the next. It means i can models lots of different prototypes all based on colliery engines of one place or another.


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