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by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:28 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

I joined up the check rails, but the relative positions of the 2 turnouts made this more inevitable than in your case. Hi AM, In that case you may need to check that you have a full 6ft way between the outer tracks. If this spacing dimension is less than 44.67mm (which is probably the case in this ...
by Martin Wynne
Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:20 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Midland Railway track templates
Replies: 6
Views: 3792

Re: Midland Railway track templates

Slaters do what they call a Track manual. Might be worth contacting them to find out what is in it. Very little that will be new to P4 modellers. A turnout is referred to as a "point" throughout, so you can judge for yourself the level at which it is written. 30 photocopied pages with a l...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:35 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

So, on plain track, which would normally only have a check rail on the inside of the curve, the check rail is placed to dimension A from the far running rail (outside of the curve) and the distance from the nearest (inside)running rail can be widened as required by using special chairs, if I unders...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:34 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

when you apply Martins comment 'Nothing ever has a wider check gauge' to check railed curves it doesnt appear that such a piece of track could actually work. Hi Jim, I don't understand your problem. If it wasn't important to maintain the check gauge at 4'-6.3/4" in all circumstances, the railw...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:27 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

It seems to me that Jim is referring to checked curved plain track whilst Martin is talking about the dimension for the all important check gauge at the crossing on a turnout. Hi Wally, The check gauge is the same for both. On gauge-widened plain track, the check rail flangeway is increased accordi...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:42 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

I'll ask a few of my contacts Hi Jim, Ask away, but you will get the same answer -- see my previous quote from BRT: "The normal flangeway of 1.3/4" must be increased by the same amount as the gauge is widened in order to maintain the dimension of 4'-6.3/4" between the bearing edge of...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:29 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

jim s-w wrote:Are you sure Martin?

Yes I am sure Jim. I have edited my previous post to include a diagram. A is fixed. D is don't care (C minus A). Special check rail chairs are used on gauge-widened curves to allow D to be wider than normal (by the same amount as the gauge-widening).

regards,

Martin.
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:47 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

have a wider check gauge to suit. Hi Jim, Nothing ever has a wider check gauge . A fixed check gauge is the fundamental requirement: http://85a.co.uk/forum/gallery/2/original/2_010658_360000000.gif check gauge A is critical crossing flangeway B is important track gauge C shouldn't be less than quot...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:16 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

Hi Jim, Prototype pointwork was rarely curved sharply enough to need gauge widening, and where it was so curved it was usually in yard areas used only by 4-wheel wagons and short-wheelbase shunting locomotives, which don't generally need gauge-widening. Nevertheless, where gauge-widening was needed ...
by Martin Wynne
Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:50 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.
Replies: 36
Views: 8528

Re: Triangular gauge use in building pointwork.

The issue with prototype track is that the check rails are spaced from the stock rails using spacer blocks - these ensure that the FLANGE WAY remains constant, fixed and immovable. Therefore, if gauge widening is introduced, then the CHECK GAUGE becomes incorrect. Since the most important dimension...
by Martin Wynne
Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:05 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: Mind the gap! Or how to secure the track either side?
Replies: 23
Views: 11260

Re: Mind the gap! Or how to secure the track either side?

An alternative means of disguising a board joint is to ballast up to the rail tops with static grass:


by Martin Wynne
Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:46 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: Mind the gap! Or how to secure the track either side?
Replies: 23
Views: 11260

Re: Mind the gap! Or how to secure the track either side?

On Adavoyle Junction we laid track normally across the board joints, and then drilled some small holes through the cork underlay between and around the last two sleepers on each side of the joint. Liquid 2-part polyester resin was then carefully brushed around the two sleepers. This soaked into and ...
by Martin Wynne
Wed May 30, 2012 5:34 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Two main problems I'm having is getting the red peg to go on the 'other' end of a turnout. Hi Knuckles, To move the red fixing peg to different positions, hold down the CTRL key and then press all the number keys from 1 to 0 along the keyboard row. There are also several other peg positions, and yo...
by Martin Wynne
Tue May 29, 2012 7:02 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Hi Knuckles, I also like David Hoogvorst's AnyRail program. I think he has produced a smashing piece of software which is great to use. Did you know that you can easily display your AnyRail track plans in Templot? You can't convert them directly to P4, but you can create P4 templates over the top of...
by Martin Wynne
Mon May 28, 2012 8:17 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Of course, i may be wrong about all this and new members may indeed still be getting a full set of templates. If that is indeed the case, then you don't need Templot to build a slip, Knuckles - the Society templates are fine! Hi Davey, A full range of straight P4 templates is also available from C&...
by Martin Wynne
Sun May 27, 2012 7:38 pm
Forum: Diesel and Electric Locomotives
Topic: High Level chassis kit for Class 03/04
Replies: 64
Views: 28398

Re: High Level chassis kit for Class 03/04

P.S. I can't work Templot either. Have you asked for help on Templot Club? Many folks say Templot is too difficult, but never actually tell me which bit they don't understand. Please watch these two videos: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html http://www.templot.com/m...
by Martin Wynne
Mon May 21, 2012 11:33 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Hi Knuckles, You account didn't make any reference to "setting" the curved stock rail at the switch. I don't know how fully this is covered in the C&L notes, but it's an important detail for beginners to get right, which isn't immediately obvious. Without a proper set in the stock rail...
by Martin Wynne
Mon May 21, 2012 10:12 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Hi Knuckles, It's looking good, but I think you may have got the rails offset to one side on the timber base: p4_timber_base.png At A I think I can see the small "v" web between the timbers which is surely intended to be aligned under the nose of the vee? And the amount of timber projectin...
by Martin Wynne
Sun May 20, 2012 10:08 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Templot provides the tools, yes but it doesn't do it for you. I don't want to get into semantics either, but your original statement implied to a casual reader that Templot does not provide such tools. The reason it's important to me to clarify such things is that a lot of email support requests ar...
by Martin Wynne
Sun May 20, 2012 8:51 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

True Martin, but Knuckles did say Any ideas or suggestions on the best way to do this without Templot? I'm still learning Templot but progress is really slow/confusing - normal that apparently and I would put shoving timbers down as one of the advanced functions, and if just creating a template to ...
by Martin Wynne
Sun May 20, 2012 7:48 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Incidentally a crossover is one of the simplest things to do in Templot, just get your simple turnout to the required gauge and size, B7 etc. then one click on "tools/make simple crossover" does the job. But as above this does not sort out the timbering which is left to you. True, but you...
by Martin Wynne
Mon May 14, 2012 10:56 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Hi Gavin, Wally, I don't think we can say anything about the timbering discrepancy without some input from the manufacturer. I'm surprised that a common timber track base is supplied for both EM and P4, and this may be the explanation. You can just about get away with this for plain turnouts, but no...
by Martin Wynne
Mon May 14, 2012 8:33 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log
Replies: 173
Views: 56769

Re: Knuckles's Turnout Construction Log

Check the alignment of the timbers over the crossing and diverging roads,do they remain at a right angle to the main road or are they at aright angle to the centre line of the crossing V? The first option is an R E A (Railway Engineers Association) standard and good for most major and minor compani...

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