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by Noel
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: On My Workbench
Topic: My plank so far...
Replies: 3
Views: 480

Re: My plank so far...

Some very impressive buildings, and nice to see the point rodding modelled. I assume that the necessary alterations to the box are on the 'to do' list. Do you intend to have a backscene, or scenic boards to extend the width? If not, I would worry about stock on the back siding between the box and th...
by Noel
Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:46 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: rail/wheel profile - prototype has problems too
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: rail/wheel profile - prototype has problems too

16 tons was the permitted load. The tare was 7-8 tons. So a mineral wagon could weigh anything between 7 and 26 tons If you include 21T minerals [tare 9T +/- depending on the type of brake] and 24.5T minerals [tare around 10.5T to 11T], then the maximum goes up to 35T + on two axles. Up to 45T on t...
by Noel
Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brettell Road
Replies: 512
Views: 84981

Re: Brettell Road

Some interesting techniques, Jim, and looking quite effective, even in 4mm. All you need now is a couple of nameplates, one at each end [which was LMSR practice], to comply with the BoT requirement for working boxes to be identified. Your colour scheme is LMSR, so the nameplates should be black and ...
by Noel
Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: rail/wheel profile - prototype has problems too
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: rail/wheel profile - prototype has problems too

If you Google [or whatever your preferred search engine is] for "UK rail wheel profiles", there are several pdf files on the topic.
by Noel
Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Crossing Vee Jig
Replies: 26
Views: 2690

Re: Crossing Vee Jig

Martin's magic engine tells me that I have Vees to build soon in BH rail to these specs 1:x where x = 4.53, 5.08, 5.5, 5.58, 5.6, 5.7, 6.16, 6.25, 6.38 as well as the common values, 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7 etc I have recently acquired a copy of "GWR Switch and Crossing Practice", which I have r...
by Noel
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)
Replies: 31
Views: 1596

Re: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)

Any rigid or compensated wagon can live with the W irons flexed away from the vertical. As someone who has quite a lot of both, I wouldn't recommend it. It's likely to result in a vehicle which won't run properly. In uncompensated axles it can result in wheelsets which won't rotate, or which have n...
by Noel
Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)
Replies: 31
Views: 1596

Re: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)

I'm largely with Jim and Philip on this. I would add that a minimal amount of sideplay is needed on "rigid" wagons to allow for some adaptation to minor track irregularities [the real thing, especially when empty, could bounce a lot, often very noisily :shock:]. On r-t-r conversions done b...
by Noel
Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Where to Find?
Topic: wagon springs and axle boxes
Replies: 3
Views: 225

Re: wagon springs and axle boxes

Probably the most comprehensive ranges currently available are Rumney Models, 51L [part of Wizard Models] and MJT [part of Dart Castings]. All have websites detailing the ranges available. Rumney's are designed for use with springing, MJT's will need some minor modification, 51L I don't know about, ...
by Noel
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1364

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

Rolt mentions locked doors in "Red for Danger". I no longer have my 1966 paperback edition, but I have a 1986 paperback edition, revised by Geoffrey Kitchenside, which doesn't mention it. It does refer to survivors attempting to rescue injured comrades before the second collision, which i...
by Noel
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1364

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

If we last that long, what will 22nd Century historians make of a society that was content to see residential point blocks encased in flammable petroleum products, sometimes for no better reason than to make them look pretty? It will be interesting to see what the enquiry makes of this case. Much m...
by Noel
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Materials and Techniques
Topic: Ready-made wire tree armatures
Replies: 4
Views: 388

Re: Ready-made wire tree armatures

Not if you get leaves on the line...
by Noel
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1364

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

To amplify Alan's comment a little, they were used in a box without track circuits to remind the signalman that there was something in the way, e.g. a loco standing at the advanced starter. One of the fireman's jobs when carrying out Rule 55 was to ensure that a lever collar had been put in place, i...
by Noel
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Advice sought on point rodding routing
Replies: 7
Views: 498

Re: Advice sought on point rodding routing

The point into the siding is in a different position to the previous crossover accessing the coal siding, so would require a new rodding run, I assume, which can be put on the old trackbed, presumably? So far as the main run to the end of the loop is concerned, would the geometry have changed enough...
by Noel
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brettell Road
Replies: 512
Views: 84981

Re: Brettell Road

Edited to add that other sources say that by 1959 10001 was not black and silver... https://www.heritagerailway.co.uk/coming-up-in-issue-251-of-hr-the-plan-to-re-create-a-d16-1/ They later had the waist rail painted duck egg blue, and later still gained small yellow panels on the nose. The roofs, i...
by Noel
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brettell Road
Replies: 512
Views: 84981

Re: Brettell Road

Tony Wilkins wrote:I think you mean the Crossley Metrovick Co-Bos rather than the Cromptons


Yes. No clue why I wrote Cromptons. :?
by Noel
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Operating in Practice
Topic: Operational entertainment...
Replies: 34
Views: 5527

Re: Operational entertainment...

Guy Rixon wrote:How about Liverpool Lime Street or Bournemouth West, to name two that I've seen recently?


Both were large, sprawling stations, which could see well over 100 coaches over 24 hours...
by Noel
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 4031

Re: Carriage loading docks

John Palmer wrote:I'm reasonably confident that that van is a Pooley & Sons' weighing machine adjustment van


I can't disagree with that; clearly I wasn't paying attention when I commented on this. Sorry, Howard.
by Noel
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 4031

Re: Carriage loading docks

Since it seems impossible for it to travel complete on any wagon available in 1918, then Howard and John have given the only other possible answers. It travelled partially dismantled, sufficiently to be within the loading gauge, for long distance movements, and by road for short distances. Even thou...
by Noel
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 4031

Re: Carriage loading docks

I will make a point of looking in my copy of the 1936 General Appendix. I had assumed that this information would not be found in the GA. I should have looked at it earlier. Page 226, Martin. Just one further thought: This engine dates from the end of the First World War, so what would the GWR have...
by Noel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: iak
Topic: Wagon floors... Wagon sides... Bare Wood... Worn wood or what?
Replies: 45
Views: 11130

Re: Wagon floors... Wagon sides... Bare Wood... Worn wood or what?

scabby decrepitude personified... Indeed. The woodwork of the Highfit is a delight, especially the contrast between the outside (formerly painted) and the inside (never painted, apart from metal items such as bolts and retaining clips). I was struck, though, by the lack of rust; usually wagons with...
by Noel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 4031

Re: Carriage loading docks

I think a width of 8'6 is sufficiently within the loading gauge and I would not worry about it overhanging the sides of the wagon It is within the loading gauge, but overhanging the sides is an issue on many GWR Loriots (Lowmacs if you speak BR) as they have got non-structural side raves, which won...
by Noel
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Locomotive fire irons
Replies: 14
Views: 935

Re: Locomotive fire irons

There have been a number of books written by former steam footplatemen, which often identify the risks involved in what was a somewhat hazardous occupation, and the consequences that resulted when it all went wrong. There was also one by a BR era BoT Railway Employment Inspector [they dealt with enq...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock
Replies: 10
Views: 525

Re: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock

The LNER locos and their successors I was thinking of would have been those working to New Cross and Poplar over the East London line from Shoreditch and Whitechapel, the connections to which have long since been cut, and those working from Bow to the Tottenham and Forest Gate Joint over the Metropo...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock
Replies: 10
Views: 525

Re: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock

I don't have a start date, Martin, but the condensing 97XX were introduced in 1933, following a conversion of an earlier loco in 1931, and had trip-cock apparatus from new, which suggests to me that their predecessors had it as well. Incidentally, a few Fowler 0-6-0T were so fitted, to work coal tra...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Locomotive fire irons
Replies: 14
Views: 935

Re: Locomotive fire irons

Although I would think safe access to fire irons during motion would be desirable, I believe the GWR had about a thousand tank locos on which the fire irons were carried in hooks mounted on the rear of the bunker; surely inaccessible to even the most acrobatic fireman, so such access was obviously ...

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