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by Noel
Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Crossing Vee Jig
Replies: 26
Views: 2600

Re: Crossing Vee Jig

Martin's magic engine tells me that I have Vees to build soon in BH rail to these specs 1:x where x = 4.53, 5.08, 5.5, 5.58, 5.6, 5.7, 6.16, 6.25, 6.38 as well as the common values, 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7 etc I have recently acquired a copy of "GWR Switch and Crossing Practice", which I have r...
by Noel
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)
Replies: 31
Views: 1513

Re: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)

Any rigid or compensated wagon can live with the W irons flexed away from the vertical. As someone who has quite a lot of both, I wouldn't recommend it. It's likely to result in a vehicle which won't run properly. In uncompensated axles it can result in wheelsets which won't rotate, or which have n...
by Noel
Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)
Replies: 31
Views: 1513

Re: P4 wagon Compensation(springing)

I'm largely with Jim and Philip on this. I would add that a minimal amount of sideplay is needed on "rigid" wagons to allow for some adaptation to minor track irregularities [the real thing, especially when empty, could bounce a lot, often very noisily :shock:]. On r-t-r conversions done b...
by Noel
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1275

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

Rolt mentions locked doors in "Red for Danger". I no longer have my 1966 paperback edition, but I have a 1986 paperback edition, revised by Geoffrey Kitchenside, which doesn't mention it. It does refer to survivors attempting to rescue injured comrades before the second collision, which i...
by Noel
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1275

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

If we last that long, what will 22nd Century historians make of a society that was content to see residential point blocks encased in flammable petroleum products, sometimes for no better reason than to make them look pretty? It will be interesting to see what the enquiry makes of this case. Much m...
by Noel
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Materials and Techniques
Topic: Ready-made wire tree armatures
Replies: 4
Views: 379

Re: Ready-made wire tree armatures

Not if you get leaves on the line...
by Noel
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Arrangement of levers in a signal box (meandering into the Quintinshill disaster)
Replies: 22
Views: 1275

Re: Arrangement of levers in a signal box

To amplify Alan's comment a little, they were used in a box without track circuits to remind the signalman that there was something in the way, e.g. a loco standing at the advanced starter. One of the fireman's jobs when carrying out Rule 55 was to ensure that a lever collar had been put in place, i...
by Noel
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Advice sought on point rodding routing
Replies: 7
Views: 497

Re: Advice sought on point rodding routing

The point into the siding is in a different position to the previous crossover accessing the coal siding, so would require a new rodding run, I assume, which can be put on the old trackbed, presumably? So far as the main run to the end of the loop is concerned, would the geometry have changed enough...
by Noel
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brettell Road
Replies: 506
Views: 84377

Re: Brettell Road

Edited to add that other sources say that by 1959 10001 was not black and silver... https://www.heritagerailway.co.uk/coming-up-in-issue-251-of-hr-the-plan-to-re-create-a-d16-1/ They later had the waist rail painted duck egg blue, and later still gained small yellow panels on the nose. The roofs, i...
by Noel
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brettell Road
Replies: 506
Views: 84377

Re: Brettell Road

Tony Wilkins wrote:I think you mean the Crossley Metrovick Co-Bos rather than the Cromptons


Yes. No clue why I wrote Cromptons. :?
by Noel
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Operating in Practice
Topic: Operational entertainment...
Replies: 34
Views: 5472

Re: Operational entertainment...

Guy Rixon wrote:How about Liverpool Lime Street or Bournemouth West, to name two that I've seen recently?


Both were large, sprawling stations, which could see well over 100 coaches over 24 hours...
by Noel
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 3935

Re: Carriage loading docks

John Palmer wrote:I'm reasonably confident that that van is a Pooley & Sons' weighing machine adjustment van


I can't disagree with that; clearly I wasn't paying attention when I commented on this. Sorry, Howard.
by Noel
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 3935

Re: Carriage loading docks

Since it seems impossible for it to travel complete on any wagon available in 1918, then Howard and John have given the only other possible answers. It travelled partially dismantled, sufficiently to be within the loading gauge, for long distance movements, and by road for short distances. Even thou...
by Noel
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 3935

Re: Carriage loading docks

I will make a point of looking in my copy of the 1936 General Appendix. I had assumed that this information would not be found in the GA. I should have looked at it earlier. Page 226, Martin. Just one further thought: This engine dates from the end of the First World War, so what would the GWR have...
by Noel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: iak
Topic: Wagon floors... Wagon sides... Bare Wood... Worn wood or what?
Replies: 45
Views: 11109

Re: Wagon floors... Wagon sides... Bare Wood... Worn wood or what?

scabby decrepitude personified... Indeed. The woodwork of the Highfit is a delight, especially the contrast between the outside (formerly painted) and the inside (never painted, apart from metal items such as bolts and retaining clips). I was struck, though, by the lack of rust; usually wagons with...
by Noel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Railway Buildings
Topic: Carriage loading docks
Replies: 74
Views: 3935

Re: Carriage loading docks

I think a width of 8'6 is sufficiently within the loading gauge and I would not worry about it overhanging the sides of the wagon It is within the loading gauge, but overhanging the sides is an issue on many GWR Loriots (Lowmacs if you speak BR) as they have got non-structural side raves, which won...
by Noel
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Locomotive fire irons
Replies: 14
Views: 928

Re: Locomotive fire irons

There have been a number of books written by former steam footplatemen, which often identify the risks involved in what was a somewhat hazardous occupation, and the consequences that resulted when it all went wrong. There was also one by a BR era BoT Railway Employment Inspector [they dealt with enq...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock
Replies: 10
Views: 523

Re: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock

The LNER locos and their successors I was thinking of would have been those working to New Cross and Poplar over the East London line from Shoreditch and Whitechapel, the connections to which have long since been cut, and those working from Bow to the Tottenham and Forest Gate Joint over the Metropo...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock
Replies: 10
Views: 523

Re: GWR, London Transport lines safety trip-cock

I don't have a start date, Martin, but the condensing 97XX were introduced in 1933, following a conversion of an earlier loco in 1931, and had trip-cock apparatus from new, which suggests to me that their predecessors had it as well. Incidentally, a few Fowler 0-6-0T were so fitted, to work coal tra...
by Noel
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Locomotive fire irons
Replies: 14
Views: 928

Re: Locomotive fire irons

Although I would think safe access to fire irons during motion would be desirable, I believe the GWR had about a thousand tank locos on which the fire irons were carried in hooks mounted on the rear of the bunker; surely inaccessible to even the most acrobatic fireman, so such access was obviously ...
by Noel
Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:45 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Locomotive fire irons
Replies: 14
Views: 928

Re: Locomotive fire irons

Short of a dire emergency your fireman won't need the fire dropping shovel whilst on the road; he may well need the long bar to stir up the fire, though, so that has to be somewhere readily accessible. The other issue is the firing shovel. If the fireman is leaning out of the window, then the shovel...
by Noel
Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: Semaphore Signals
Topic: close up photos of GWR tubular signals
Replies: 13
Views: 730

Re: close up photos of GWR tubular signals

Looks like the standard GWR contact enclosure, most probably for a repeater of the signal's aspect in the signal box. The lamp has no backlight blinder, but does have wires, so it appears that the signal is not visible from the box (or someone is being extra cautious) and has repeaters for the lamp...
by Noel
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Funky 3 way
Replies: 14
Views: 1774

Re: Funky 3 way

It is possible to work out legal ways of doing this. It assumes the use of a staff [normal even with OIS], and the g/f nearest the junction being locked by the staff, but the other g/f, by the crossing, only having the crossover locked by the staff, or the two sidings reached via the diamond only be...
by Noel
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Funky 3 way
Replies: 14
Views: 1774

Re: Funky 3 way

If locked in via the ground frame another train can run up and down the branch while shunting takes place.My understanding is the tablet would release the locking lever in the frame, If the g/f is unlocked by the tablet, token or staff, then it would be locked in the frame until work is over and al...
by Noel
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Funky 3 way
Replies: 14
Views: 1774

Re: Funky 3 way

I know that good line across the diamond needed the token, To release the g/f. so was it then one lever each for the point feeding across the diamond from the loop, and 1 for each of the 2 traps independently, I would have thought that the traps would be operated together; the crew can then shunt b...

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