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by Noel
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Coaches and NPCS
Topic: Thompson BZ 6 wheel van
Replies: 19
Views: 2835

Re: Thompson BZ 6 wheel van

I should perhaps have pointed out that my comment only relates to the later BR practice of right hand numbers, as you have used; the load limits seem to have appeared more or less at the same time as the change from left hand numbers [officially early in 1951, but it took until about mid-1952 for so...
by Noel
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:34 pm
Forum: Coaches and NPCS
Topic: Thompson BZ 6 wheel van
Replies: 19
Views: 2835

Re: Thompson BZ 6 wheel van

Like most passenger luggage vans, PMVs, CCTs, full brakes and brake/passenger coaches in BR days, BZs carried "Load 'X' Tons Distributed" close to the bottom of the side at the van end, RH end both sides for full brakes. 'X' is 5 for Thompson BZs, and the two photos I have seen show it alm...
by Noel
Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:56 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Throwing single slips
Replies: 7
Views: 282

Re: Throwing single slips

Presumably Normal for 26 is to the curved road [platform and siding respectively], 24 Normal locks 26 Normal and 26 Reversed locks 24 Reversed?
by Noel
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Coaches and NPCS
Topic: LNER Thompson 5 compartment brake third
Replies: 11
Views: 852

Re: LNER Thompson 5 compartment brake third

One question you haven't commented on is "How accurate is the Hornby vehicle dimensionally?" [No I don't know the answer.] Some r-t-r is surprisingly [to me, anyway] good in this respect; in other cases manufacturing compromises or plain bad design produce poor results. I use r-t-r wagons ...
by Noel
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:19 am
Forum: Trains: Model and Prototype
Topic: A question of colour
Replies: 18
Views: 1293

Re: A question of colour

I don't have any information about locomotives specifically, but coaches and wagons in the 1930s were painted with oil based mixtures, some of which which included "black in oil", the exact proportions depending on what it was applied to. Wagon sheets were coated in a mixture which include...
by Noel
Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: Another newcomer's question re wagon suspension
Replies: 54
Views: 2404

Re: Another newcomer's question re wagon suspension

They're the same thing. Axleguards is the official description, sometimes called "W irons" from the shape visible below the solebar.
by Noel
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame
Replies: 132
Views: 7493

Re: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame

In my view departing Yard to Up line is not a "wrong direction" or "backing" movement as you end up going in the right direction on the Up main. The 1956 diagram on the SRS site shows single discs on all Yard exits, so all three should, I believe, be conditional signals, since th...
by Noel
Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: Another newcomer's question re wagon suspension
Replies: 54
Views: 2404

Re: Another newcomer's question re wagon suspension

Except that the distance between the inside faces of the solebars is slightly greater and the axleguards are joggled to bring them inwards. Not likely to be a practical issue though.
by Noel
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame
Replies: 132
Views: 7493

Re: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame

Not only had the other three grouping companies used them from c.1930 but they also (gradually, money was short) introduced them for relevant existing installations, changing red dollies to yellow ones. Although the SR used yellow arms on a black disk [which has always seemed much clearer to me]; I...
by Noel
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Trains: Model and Prototype
Topic: A question of colour
Replies: 18
Views: 1293

Re: A question of colour

I have two colour albums - BR steam in colour and British Railways seam in colour which include many engines that show a red-brown tinge I have BR Steam in Colour 1948-1968 [I assume that the other book has a different title?] and would refer you to the top photo on page 35. Apart from possible rus...
by Noel
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Trains: Model and Prototype
Topic: A question of colour
Replies: 18
Views: 1293

Re: A question of colour

R A Riddles was on record as intending the BR lined black livery to replicate the LNWR livery; I may have conflated two things wrongly, as, on checking, BR black was apparently just called "gloss black". It would probably not have had such a high standard of finish as the LNWR black.
by Noel
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:39 pm
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame
Replies: 132
Views: 7493

Re: Lever frame mk 2 and the locking frame

Not sure this got answered ... it is my understanding that the GW did not use yellow arms in this situation but the spectacle glasses were clear rather than red. The 1936 General Appendix shows all types of independent ground signals as having green and either red or white aspects, but a red arm, w...
by Noel
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Trains: Model and Prototype
Topic: A question of colour
Replies: 18
Views: 1293

Re: A question of colour

BR steam locos [apart from the ones in red, green or one of several shades of blue] were officially "Blackberry black" and were definitely just black. Variations could be introduced by the film processing. The amount of rust and dirt on the loco could also affect the result. Colour films o...
by Noel
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Roseladden Wharf development
Replies: 5
Views: 447

Re: Roseladden Wharf development

Nothing wrong with the box being where you show it. Possible alternatives are to put a crossover where the slip is and move the yard access immediately to the right, alongside the loop point; the yard can then only be shunted from the mineral branch, but in railway terms that isn't a problem unless ...
by Noel
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Roseladden Wharf development
Replies: 5
Views: 447

Re: Roseladden Wharf development

I agree with Keith about the shunting not fouling the main running line any more than is absolutely essential [running round trains basically]. Given that space would not normally be an issue in such a set up in reality, I would suggest that the railway would reduce costs by not using a slip but sim...
by Noel
Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Devon Riviera (DRAG)
Topic: D.R.A.G. and Burns Night?
Replies: 5
Views: 674

Re: D.R.A.G. and Burns Night?

nberrington wrote:Please confirm you had the haggis while listening to completely incomprehensible poetry.


http://www.robertburns.org.uk/Assets/Poems_Songs/toahaggis.htm and no, I don't speak Lallans either...
by Noel
Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Track for battery/radio control?
Replies: 28
Views: 1384

Re: Track for battery/radio control?

Is the technology capable of printing rails with 1:20 inclination, or would it be restricted to vertical?
by Noel
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Coaches and NPCS
Topic: Converting Hornby Collett Non Corridor Stock to P4
Replies: 21
Views: 1110

Re: Converting Hornby Collett Non Corridor Stock to P4

I'm afraid I can't help much, as my main interest is goods traffic. I currently only have two bogie passenger vehicles, a Lima LMS bogie CCT, which came with BR mark 1 bogies :shock:, now on rigid Comet bogies, and an Airfix autocoach on its original bogies. I do have 3 bogie rail wagons [Cambrian k...
by Noel
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Forum: Coaches and NPCS
Topic: Converting Hornby Collett Non Corridor Stock to P4
Replies: 21
Views: 1110

Re: Converting Hornby Collett Non Corridor Stock to P4

The 00 wheelsets are directly replaced by P4 ones (from Alan Gibson); brass pin point bearings are not fitted on the basis that the coaches are not expected to cover a high mileage but could be added if desired (to drill out the sideframes appropriately one would presumably have to get hold of a “B...
by Noel
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:31 am
Forum: North East of Scotland (Grampian)
Topic: January 2020 Workshop
Replies: 4
Views: 978

Re: January 2020 Workshop

As one who commonly builds rigid vehicles I would add that a bogie wheelbase is no longer than that of a 10ft wheelbase wagon, and is often significantly shorter, so individually bogies are no more intolerant of local variations in the track than such a wagon. Bogie vehicles, however, may be much mo...
by Noel
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: North London Group
Topic: Bodmin
Replies: 25
Views: 2210

Re: Bodmin

Regarding wartime pooling, china clay wagons would presumably have been Non-Pool – like tased loadstone wagons and tankers. I would have thought the same, but the two photographs in J. H. Russell "Freight Wagons and Loads in service on the GWR and BR, WR" referred to under 3) in mine of 5...
by Noel
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: North London Group
Topic: Bodmin
Replies: 25
Views: 2210

Re: Bodmin

The Devon output was of ball clay, very similar to, but not identical to, china clay. One location was near Heathfield in south Devon, the other near Meeth in north Devon; the former was served by the GWR, the latter by the SR. There was a third location near Wareham in Dorset, also served by the SR...
by Noel
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: North London Group
Topic: Bodmin
Replies: 25
Views: 2210

Re: Bodmin

There was another clay drier about 1 mile east of Bodmin on the down side of the West of England main line - the Newbridge Dries of the Onslow China Clay Ltd - and associates sidings and sign box - Onslow Sidings, the clay came via a pipe from Bodmin Moor. The works and its associated siding operat...
by Noel
Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: North London Group
Topic: Bodmin
Replies: 25
Views: 2210

Re: Bodmin

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/written-answers/1920/nov/15/china-clay-loading-facilities-fowey indicates the facilities which would have been available at Fowey, which was the major exporting port for china clay, by 1929. As Cornwall was virtually a monopoly supplier, about 75% of produ...
by Noel
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: North London Group
Topic: Bodmin
Replies: 25
Views: 2210

Re: Bodmin

[The GWR also built their own version of the 5-plank end-tipping ‘clay hood’, which has subsequently become available as a plastic kit.] J. H. Russell "Freight Wagons and Loads in service on the GWR and BR, WR" shows the following, 1-4 at Fowey, 5/6 at Swindon. None have sheet bars except...

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