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by grovenor-2685
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Jeremy Suter
Topic: scaleforum you tube test run
Replies: 29
Views: 667

Re: scaleforum you tube test run

Original link asked me to register but after that seemed to want me to create a live stream.
Anyway, got it through Danny's link but it says that live chat is disabled.
by grovenor-2685
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: Wagons
Topic: Formation (and size) of a pick-up goods train
Replies: 20
Views: 485

Re: Formation (and size) of a pick-up goods train

I think it unlikely that the train would run with a fitted head, more likely the fitted wagons would run wirh brake pipes unconnected and the marshalling order just be based on the shunting requirements.
by grovenor-2685
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Masokits etched chairs turnout construction
Replies: 21
Views: 1941

Re: Masokits etched chairs

Thanks Keith for that useful tip. Regarding the subject of key direction in general, is it right that rails generally creep in the direction of travel, so keys are driven in against it? I.e. generally from the left. In the case of a single line or siding is there a custom/practice? See https://www....
by grovenor-2685
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: First steps in track building and P4.
Replies: 33
Views: 1583

Re: First steps in track building and P4.

The code 75 is the height of the rail, not the head width. The width does vary between makes, largely dependent, I think on the age of the die. I suppose the height will similarly vary as the tool ages, but should not get anywhere near code 85. A prototype 95lb bull head rail when new is 145.26 mm h...
by grovenor-2685
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: Making a Start - The Peak District Midland / Monsal Dale pre 1903
Replies: 1213
Views: 204079

Re: Making a Start - The Peak District Midland / Monsal Dale pre 1903

Anyway ... beyond some experimentation I need to progress the layout design such that I can get some baseboards up and running. Still keen to see what might be possible using Styrofoam ;) Rod Cameron has expanded on his Scalefour News article with a topic on RMweb, a search for Lewes should find it.
by grovenor-2685
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: South Pelaw Junction
Replies: 129
Views: 29307

Re: South Pelaw Junction

I fitted my Masokits ones after laying the track, Wasn't particulary hard. I don't think fitting them to loose turnouts would be any easier.
by grovenor-2685
Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:18 am
Forum: Starting in P4
Topic: First steps in track building and P4.
Replies: 33
Views: 1583

Re: First steps in track building and P4.

You'll find it impossible to use a single triangular gauge as they have no sense of direction. I don't understand this statement at all, its up to the user to orient the gauge correctly on curved track, other than that where does direction come into it? I successfully built plenty of track with one...
by grovenor-2685
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Running out of coal.
Replies: 13
Views: 759

Re: Running out of coal.

Steam loco coal consumption on BR was very variable even between locos of the same class. I don't know the context of E S Cox's comment, but it was probably about making sure there was enough coal capacity to do any likely job, not about finishing the day with minimum coal in the tender. I thought ...
by grovenor-2685
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Running out of coal.
Replies: 13
Views: 759

Re: Running out of coal.

According to E S Cox, the reason that the BR Standards had a lot of variations in coal capacity was that it was tailored to the expected duties as having leftover coal in the tender then filling on top the leftovers degraded such that when it was eventually needed the quality and thus steaming would...
by grovenor-2685
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: Layouts and Operations
Topic: Brimsdown-The last grand project.
Replies: 420
Views: 75604

Re: Brimsdown-The last grand project.

You can get relay boards on eBay very cheaply with 2, 4, 8 or 16 relays, its really not worth building your own. Just search for 'Relay Modules. eg. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-12V-or-24V-1-2-4-8-16-Channel-Relay-Module-Arduino-PI-ARM-AVR-DSP-PIC/262722739443?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3d2b7e...
by grovenor-2685
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: On My Workbench
Topic: Mike G's catch up.
Replies: 55
Views: 3696

Re: Mike G's catch up.

Plenty of numbers from 50 upwards available. :)
by grovenor-2685
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: On My Workbench
Topic: Mike G's catch up.
Replies: 55
Views: 3696

Re: Mike G's catch up.

Thanks Noel. Have you got a picture of this. 73024 isn’t in any of my books. Which is why it’s the way it is. Mike From the Wikipedia the first 50 had BR1 tenders, ie without fall plate and hence doors and canvas bellows on the cab, same as the earlt Brits. Google images brought up the diagrams but...
by grovenor-2685
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Product Information
Topic: Chivers Kits Return...
Replies: 18
Views: 1805

Re: Chivers Kits Return...

The actual website may be more use than the facebook page.
https://five79.co.uk/4mm-Standard-Gauge-Kits/
by grovenor-2685
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:32 am
Forum: Semaphore Signals
Topic: Signals for Minories
Replies: 53
Views: 12552

Re: Signals for Minories

JFS wrote:Edit:- See post dated Dec 16 2009 (is it really that long ago!)
Best Wishes,


Since this topic only started in November 2015 perhaps you could provide a link to the 2009 post. :)
by grovenor-2685
Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Servos and DCC
Replies: 8
Views: 1176

Re: Servos and DCC

From what I've seen on MERG using Arduinos seems to very quickly become a hobby in itself. I'm pretty sure there are Arduino sketches out there for operating Servos so if you can resist the Arduino take over might bbe worth a try. On the other hand MERG have servo driver kits optimised for operation...
by grovenor-2685
Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:46 am
Forum: Signals and Control Systems
Topic: Servos and DCC
Replies: 8
Views: 1176

Re: Servos and DCC

I use servos with MERG Servo4 units and have for years now. Used as intended I have not had twitching problems. From what I have seen those problems are more likely on DC layouts than DCC.I have used microswitches for frog switching in a few cases but prefer to use relays. The chear chinese relay mo...
by grovenor-2685
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Masokits etched chairs turnout construction
Replies: 21
Views: 1941

Re: Masokits etched chairs

and here I found my fishplates (Brassmasters) were too long - partly because the chair keys each side of the joint were facing towards each other. Moral, make the keys face outwards here, even if that's not quite correct prototypically. Keys at a joint are always hammered in towards the joint, very...
by grovenor-2685
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Steam Locomotives
Topic: Branchlines SER/SECR Class O kit
Replies: 14
Views: 851

Re: Branchlines SER/SECR Class O kit

Philip Hall wrote:Alignment of brakes etc is done with the wheels slid onto wooden axles (this is also how I work out sideplay)

Thanks for that Philip, not something I had thought of, I can see it being very useful.
by grovenor-2685
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Spur gears
Replies: 37
Views: 3100

Re: Spur gears

Quote from one of the Mike Edge links I gave, This is more of an innovation now, an n20 motor and gearbox driving the trailing axle through bevel gears - paint on the motor shows that I forgot to mask it before spraying primer but it doesn't seem to have affected it. The gearbox frame is simply sold...
by grovenor-2685
Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Spur gears
Replies: 37
Views: 3100

Re: Spur gears

I can’t quite locate the model of n20 motor and gearbox - presumably it’s an eBay Chinese one? I have a small drum motor with enclosed gearbox driving my turntable very effectively. I gave a link a few posts back, most of the gearboxes seem to be designed for a 100 rpm output, but there are plenty ...
by grovenor-2685
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: Guest Book
Topic: Re: Spur Gears Enquiry
Replies: 1
Views: 356

Re: Spur Gears Enquiry

Of course, if you don't fancy the N20 motors with gearboxes that are in the MIke Edge link I gave you can just buy them and use only the gears. :) Still a good price it that's all you use. eg. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=N20+motors&_sacat=...
by grovenor-2685
Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Track and Turnouts
Topic: Spur gears
Replies: 37
Views: 3100

Re: Spur gears

Another option is to use gearhead motors where the reduction is built in and you just need a bevel or contrate gearset for the axle. I think Mike Edge has illustrated this in his RMweb workbench. The drawback is that the driveshaft is in the maximum torque part of the drive so maximising the tendenc...
by grovenor-2685
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Other Buildings and Scenery
Topic: How tall should cattle dock fencing be?
Replies: 24
Views: 2006

Re: How tall should cattle dock fencing be?

There are about ten brick courses visible, plus a concrete top, which would produce a height of about 3ft above the top of the rail, which is about right to produce a gentle slope on the ramp when loading/unloading. On that basis, the fence is about 4ft high at most. I also think you are undercount...

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