2'4" disc wagon wheels

2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby andrewnummelin » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:23 pm

Does anyone know of a source for such items?
Many moons ago I obtained a form tool for turning P4 wheels but I have only a small lathe (Unimat 3) and I have been led to believe that this cannot cope with such a tool. Does anyone have any advice on getting such wheels produced?
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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby steamraiser » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:24 pm

Andrew,

The smallest wheels I know of are those for Lowmac wagons which are 10.5mm / 2ft 7.5 inches.
How about HO wheels?

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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby Tim V » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:25 pm

Isn't that a lowmac wheel, which is/was available from Alan Gibson.

I have used a wheel form tool on a Unimat, but only produced 1' diameter wheels.
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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby grovenor-2685 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:58 pm

On our website, follow 'resources/traders/wheels' and look around, once you realise that the welcome button hidden at the very bottom of Intercity Models webpage actually lets you see the rest of the site you will find their wheellist
The second one on the list should be close enough, just worn a bit but not yet ready for scrapping.
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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby Penrhos1920 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:53 pm

If you buy the Intercity model wheels see if you can get them unweathered. The weathering was so thick on the treads that it caused mega derailments and I had to spend ages scrapping it off.

2'4"??? Anything to do with a certain AN(N&SW)D&R wagon or coach?

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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby andrewnummelin » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:15 pm

Gents,
Thanks for the suggestions. Options now seem to be (in order of increasing diameter...)
8.9mm Superoller - blackened brass
9.33mm home made - bright steel
9.63mm Proto:87 - weathered nickel silver
10.5mm Alan Gibson lowmac - blackened steel

Unless any other options come up, I think I'll probably try for the second option, fail, and accept the third option and polish off the weathering!
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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby andrewnummelin » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:19 pm

Penrhos1920 wrote:
2'4"??? Anything to do with a certain AN(N&SW)D&R wagon or coach?

Richard


How did you guess? But I thought the coaches had larger wheels.
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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby Terry Bendall » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:00 am

andrewnummelin wrote:Many moons ago I obtained a form tool for turning P4 wheels but I have only a small lathe (Unimat 3) and I have been led to believe that this cannot cope with such a tool.


If using steel and you took things very slowly and used lots of cutting oil it should work. If you made them from brass no oil would be necessary. Roughing out the shape first and using the form tool to finish is a useful idea.

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Re: 2'4" disc wagon wheels

Postby Penrhos1920 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:55 am

andrewnummelin wrote:
Penrhos1920 wrote:
2'4"??? Anything to do with a certain AN(N&SW)D&R wagon or coach?

Richard


How did you guess? But I thought the coaches had larger wheels.


I've just looked at my drawing of AN(N&SW)D&R coach no.3. It has 28" wheels. AFAIR the only item of Barnum & Bailey rolling stock to not have 28" wheels was the Advance Car which had normal UK wheels and buffing gear, everything else had 28" wheels and either low level buckeye or "raised" UK buffer beams which were above the solebar level.

How is the wagon coming along?
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